Guest guest Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 - hrtbeat7 AdyashantiSatsang Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:49 PM [AdyashantiSatsang] Re: ordinary AdyashantiSatsang , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> wrote: > The way the Buddha is talked about, as if he was so utterly extraordinary... But Buddha Mind must be the most utterly ordinary. So hard/easy to miss, the utterly ordinary. When *seeing itself* is naked " If you continue this simple practice (zazen) every day you will obtain a wonderful power. Before you attain it, it is something wonderful, but after you obtain it, it is nothing special. It is just you yourself, nothing special. As a Chinese poem says, " I went and I returned. It was nothing special. Rozan famous for its misty mountains; Sekko for its water. " People think it must be wonderful to see the famous range of mountains covered by mists, and the water said to cover all the earth. But if you go there you will just see water and mountains. Nothing special. It is a kind of mystery that for people who have no experience of enlightenment, enlightenment is something wonderful. But if they attain it, it is nothing. But yet it is not nothing. Do you understand? For a mother with children, having children is nothing special. That is zazen. So, if you continue this practice, more and more you will acquire something -- nothing special, but nevertheless something. You may say " universal nature " or " Buddha nature " or " enlightenment. " You may call it by many names, but for the person who has it, it is nothing, and it is something. " ~Suzuki Roshi Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind LoveAlways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Suzuki Roshi was a con artist. What is it you are trying to attain, Bill? Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> wrote: > > - > hrtbeat7 > AdyashantiSatsang > Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:49 PM > [AdyashantiSatsang] Re: ordinary > > > AdyashantiSatsang , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> > wrote: > > > > The way the Buddha is talked about, as if > he was so utterly extraordinary... > > But Buddha Mind must be the most utterly ordinary. > > So hard/easy to miss, the utterly ordinary. > > When *seeing itself* is naked > > > > > " If you continue this simple practice (zazen) every day you will > obtain a wonderful power. Before you attain it, it is something > wonderful, but after you obtain it, it is nothing special. It is just > you yourself, nothing special. As a Chinese poem says, " I went and I > returned. It was nothing special. Rozan famous for its misty > mountains; Sekko for its water. " People think it must be wonderful to > see the famous range of mountains covered by mists, and the water > said to cover all the earth. But if you go there you will just see > water and mountains. Nothing special. > It is a kind of mystery that for people who have no experience of > enlightenment, enlightenment is something wonderful. But if they > attain it, it is nothing. But yet it is not nothing. Do you > understand? For a mother with children, having children is nothing > special. That is zazen. So, if you continue this practice, more and > more you will acquire something -- nothing special, but nevertheless > something. You may say " universal nature " or " Buddha nature " > or " enlightenment. " You may call it by many names, but for the person > who has it, it is nothing, and it is something. " > > ~Suzuki Roshi > Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind > > > > > LoveAlways > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 e# danandadan got the uzi out for a walk today. Nisargadatta , " danananda2004 " <danananda2004> wrote: > Suzuki Roshi was a con artist. > > What is it you are trying to attain, Bill? > > > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> > wrote: > > > > - > > hrtbeat7 > > AdyashantiSatsang > > Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:49 PM > > [AdyashantiSatsang] Re: ordinary > > > > > > AdyashantiSatsang , " Bill Rishel " > <plexus@a...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > The way the Buddha is talked about, as if > > he was so utterly extraordinary... > > > > But Buddha Mind must be the most utterly ordinary. > > > > So hard/easy to miss, the utterly ordinary. > > > > When *seeing itself* is naked > > > > > > > > > > " If you continue this simple practice (zazen) every day you will > > obtain a wonderful power. Before you attain it, it is something > > wonderful, but after you obtain it, it is nothing special. It is > just > > you yourself, nothing special. As a Chinese poem says, " I went and > I > > returned. It was nothing special. Rozan famous for its misty > > mountains; Sekko for its water. " People think it must be wonderful > to > > see the famous range of mountains covered by mists, and the water > > said to cover all the earth. But if you go there you will just see > > water and mountains. Nothing special. > > It is a kind of mystery that for people who have no experience of > > enlightenment, enlightenment is something wonderful. But if they > > attain it, it is nothing. But yet it is not nothing. Do you > > understand? For a mother with children, having children is nothing > > special. That is zazen. So, if you continue this practice, more and > > more you will acquire something -- nothing special, but > nevertheless > > something. You may say " universal nature " or " Buddha nature " > > or " enlightenment. " You may call it by many names, but for the > person > > who has it, it is nothing, and it is something. " > > > > ~Suzuki Roshi > > Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind > > > > > > > > > > LoveAlways > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 << Suzuki Roshi was a con artist. What is it you are trying to attain, Bill? >> You misread the headers. That portion was a reply by hrtbeat7 (Robert O'Hearn) of the AdyahantiSatsang list. I just forwarded it because I thought was an interesting quote. As for " attaining " , there is nothing to attain. I think the quote is his way of talking about something that happens that doesn't happen, something that changes when there is no change. Maybe you know what I mean. Con artist? Have no idea. " zazen " is not something I relate to. " Nothing special " was interesting and did relate to the " ordinary " of my post. For myself, would say...ordinary...but how extraordinary! " Nothing special, " but ....Wow! Bill Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> wrote: > > - > hrtbeat7 > AdyashantiSatsang > Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:49 PM > [AdyashantiSatsang] Re: ordinary > > > AdyashantiSatsang , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> > wrote: > > > > The way the Buddha is talked about, as if > he was so utterly extraordinary... > > But Buddha Mind must be the most utterly ordinary. > > So hard/easy to miss, the utterly ordinary. > > When *seeing itself* is naked > > > > > " If you continue this simple practice (zazen) every day you will > obtain a wonderful power. Before you attain it, it is something > wonderful, but after you obtain it, it is nothing special. It is just > you yourself, nothing special. As a Chinese poem says, " I went and I > returned. It was nothing special. Rozan famous for its misty > mountains; Sekko for its water. " People think it must be wonderful to > see the famous range of mountains covered by mists, and the water > said to cover all the earth. But if you go there you will just see > water and mountains. Nothing special. > It is a kind of mystery that for people who have no experience of > enlightenment, enlightenment is something wonderful. But if they > attain it, it is nothing. But yet it is not nothing. Do you > understand? For a mother with children, having children is nothing > special. That is zazen. So, if you continue this practice, more and > more you will acquire something -- nothing special, but nevertheless > something. You may say " universal nature " or " Buddha nature " > or " enlightenment. " You may call it by many names, but for the person > who has it, it is nothing, and it is something. " > > ~Suzuki Roshi > Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind > > > > > LoveAlways > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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