[AdvaitaToZen] Fw: [awakenedawareness] The Trap of Deceitful Gurus

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> Poonjaji: Many saints, sages and teachers think that they have attained

ultimate Truth.

 

It is axiomatic.

Anyone who thinks they have attained ultimate Truth hasn't.

 

While what he says it true, am amazed that it has to be pointed out.

But then I don't believe in gurus.

 

How can you tell if a guru is authentic?

By your own heart, of course.

 

Therefore it is one's own heart that is the touchstone of Truth.

 

Someone who leads you to your own heart is a worthy guide.

Someone who leads you to themselves is a charlatan.

 

Where else than in your own heart will you find Truth?

 

Bill

 

 

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Ben Hassine

AdvaitaToZen

Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:29 AM

[AdvaitaToZen] Fw: [awakenedawareness] The Trap of Deceitful Gurus

 

 

 

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Ben Hassine

awakenedawareness

Cc: iam

Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:14 AM

[awakenedawareness] The Trap of Deceitful Gurus

 

 

Typed from The Truth Is, Sri H.W.L. Poonja, edited and compiled by Prashanti de

Jager, pages 418 - 421

 

This is the Kali Yuga,

Even Rakshashas will incarnate as teachers to mislead you.

Those who must be destroyed by these demons will be.

 

You must test your Guru!

Test the Guru by looking at the Guru's lineage,

it is very important.

Test the Guru by the teaching:

without inquiry there is no teaching.

Shun every teacher who does not teach Vichar!

Directly looking at your own face is the only teaching.

Preachers only speak of darkness,

the understanding of darkness, and the removal of it.

But there is no darkness, and no understanding,

there is only light!

 

If the Guru says 'I am enlightened,'

it means the ego is enlightened so stay away.

Western teachers who say this are preachers so stay away

and only write books to load more garbage on seekers,

and more money in their pockets.

They will attract so many students,

but in Kali Yuga it is the falsehood which will draw the crowds.

The Truth and the true Gurus will be neglected.

If there is a teacher and a student for more than one second

then both of them go to avachi hell!

 

 

You have asked many people to go and teach. Are these people messengers or

masters in their own right? Can you explain this?

 

Poonjaji: They are messengers. They are giving this message throughout the world

of what is happening in Lucknow, so that the whole world is happy. They are just

messengers, but with some the ego crops up and so they claim to be masters. They

will go to a hell along with those who follow them. (giggles)

Messengers are messengers, but is it right when they are given something to

give and share, that they say it is from themselves? Why not be honest? They

should say, 'I got this from this place and so you can go there if you want the

same thing.' But ego is very strong and that is why they say you have to serve

twelve years so your ego is removed.

The person who hurt you so deeply stayed with me for twenty five days. In

these twenty five days he stayed in Tourist Bungalow and came to me for one hour

in the morning, This means he stayed for twenty-five hours! And you can see the

result of this twenty-five hours. He says he has surpassed his teacher. Another

one stayed just twelve days and declared himself the master of the masters. But

this Freedom is a prasad from the Teacher. He will touch your head and the he

will be satisfied with you. When he is satisfied he will hand over this precious

Diamond.

So all this is arrogance of the person. Ignorance and ego play this part.

All the teachers of the world have this ego of being a teacher. The teacher must

be humble. He must be like a servant to serve the people so that they become

happy. If the teacher is arrogant what can he or she teach to others?

Practically every teacher in India and the West are arrogant commercial

teachers. Everything is becoming commercial.

You have to be careful about the messengers. When India sends out

ambassadors they cannot say, 'I am the Prime Minister'. Ambassadors are

ambassadors and must get instructions and consultations of the Prime Minister.

But if they behave like Prime Minister they are called back.

 

There seem to be cases of where people have a mistaken conviction that they have

attained the ultimate Truth.

 

Poonjaji: Many saints, sages and teachers think that they have attained ultimate

Truth.

 

 

 

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