Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Maharaj said, " You are that by what you know you are. " That's the 'I am feeling' the sense of naked being whithout labeling it, this or that. A label, an identity is a limitation. Even when the identification is,'I'm everything that is' that is just a thought superimposed on the unnameable, and thinking 'you' are an infinite collection of things is just a tad less limiting as to think that 'you' are a Pete, or a Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 - " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us <Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:00 AM " Identity & I Am " > Maharaj said, " You are that by what you know you are. " That's the 'I > am feeling' the sense of naked being whithout labeling it, this or > that. > A label, an identity is a limitation. Even when the identification > is,'I'm everything that is' that is just a thought superimposed on > the unnameable, and thinking 'you' are an infinite collection of > things is just a tad less limiting as to think that 'you' are a Pete, > or a Joe. -------- Yes. " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is once again a conceptualizing,.....once again an identity........and thus a hoopla of the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is once again a conceptualizing,.....once again an identity........and thus a hoopla of the mind. >>> You seem to be saying that conceptualizing is a hoopla of the mind. And most any use of words (such as yours above) is a conceptualizing, most any use of words is a hoopla of the mind. Now, whatever you mean by " hoopla of the mind " , if it applies everywhere without distinction, then it is not a useful distinction. How does saying such-and-such a remark is a hoopla of the mind entail a useful distinction? When you say something is a hoopla of the mind, what's your point? Why say it? Bill - sandeep Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:55 PM Re: " Identity & I Am " - " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us <Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:00 AM " Identity & I Am " > Maharaj said, " You are that by what you know you are. " That's the 'I > am feeling' the sense of naked being whithout labeling it, this or > that. > A label, an identity is a limitation. Even when the identification > is,'I'm everything that is' that is just a thought superimposed on > the unnameable, and thinking 'you' are an infinite collection of > things is just a tad less limiting as to think that 'you' are a Pete, > or a Joe. -------- Yes. " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is once again a conceptualizing,.....once again an identity........and thus a hoopla of the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 - " Bill Rishel " <plexus <Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 25, 2004 04:54 PM Re: " Identity & I Am " > " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is once again a conceptualizing,.....once again an identity........and thus a hoopla of the mind. > >>> > > You seem to be saying that conceptualizing is a hoopla of the mind. > And most any use of words (such as yours above) is a conceptualizing, > most any use of words is a hoopla of the mind. > > Now, whatever you mean by " hoopla of the mind " , if it applies > everywhere without distinction, then it is not a useful distinction. > How does saying such-and-such a remark is a hoopla of the mind entail a useful distinction? --------- Was not aware, was offering a distinction, useful or usless. Have not suggested that while such and such is a hoopla of the mind, .......the mind can come up with something which is not it's hoopla. --------- > When you say something is a hoopla of the mind, what's your point? > Why say it? Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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