Fw: [AdvaitaToZen] an astounding change can take place - Balsekar

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Bill, let me remove you from the List...

fun stuff may come out of this.

 

 

 

 

 

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" dabo " <dscasta

<AdvaitaToZen >

Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:52 PM

Re: [AdvaitaToZen] an astounding change can take place - Balsekar

 

 

 

 

 

i like Bill's comment

on the words of a (possibly) 'enlightened' one.

 

to read Bill is like watching a bad juggler with knives.

he gets cut every time he touches a word.

 

it's funny.

not too funny though.

 

this is why Bill is in my Blocked Senders List.

 

 

 

 

dabo

 

 

 

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" nothall " <mapiosv

<AdvaitaToZen >

Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:46 PM

Re: [AdvaitaToZen] an astounding change can take place - Balsekar

 

 

 

 

Bill Rishel <plexus wrote:

Jan Sultan <swork wrote:

All problems are created because

we think, we conceptualize,

we fabricate symbols and images,

including images of ourselves.

But no image has any actual substance,

and if this conceptualization stops

by being seen for what it really is,

an astounding change cannot but take place.

 

Balsekar

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That there is any conceptualizing going on is

a conceptualization. It is a self-feeding cycle.

 

There is no conceptualizing to be stopped.

There is nothing to be " seen " .

There is no change to take place.

 

To contemplate that there is nothing to be

" seen " , that there is no change to take place,

and to be unperturbed... is to be free.

 

 

Bill

 

 

 

He says that we must stop conceptualizing,

 

and you answer that " there is no conceptualizing " ,wich is a concept itself.

 

There is-there is no...the same old song,again.

 

marios

 

 

 

 

 

 

Words must be used like stepping stones: lightly and with nimbleness,

because if you step on them too heavily, you incur the danger of falling

into the intellectual mire of logic and reason. - Balsekar

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