[AdvaitaToZen] Apperception - what a mentally arousing concept! part2

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i'm trying, ............i'm really trying............

................haven't finished it yet,...

but i think .......................there might be something in it...........

 

or.............not?

 

 

 

 

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" sandeep " <sandeepc

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Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:45 AM

Re: [AdvaitaToZen] Apperception

 

 

> Hi Pete/Harvey,

>

> The term apperception is as conceptual as any term that has been used, that

can be used.

>

> A conceptual pointing arises, when a question arises in a Master-seeker

milieu, about what is the enlightened state like.

>

> The very question about enlightenment, ............the very term

" enlightenment " is of significance only to a sense of seeker, isn't it?

>

> When I am all there is,..................what is not-I,...........such that to

become enlightened, or to remain unenlightened,.......all these hoopla can be of

any relevance to I?

>

> Sure, to thicken the plot of my play, I can manifest myself and experience the

joys of striving years and years to achieve myself through practices,

austerities, tapas, meditation, stand on my head, et all (someone affirmed

Buddha being a fool)

>

> Who is to stop I,........ to play out whatever roles I can dream up?

>

> Now coming back to that posed question on enlightenment, .......

>

> .......depending on the milieu in the moment,...... a response could be " In my

Dad's pad, time shall be no more " , (as arose through the dude Jesus)

>

> A conceptual pointing was born.

>

> Another was the pointing using the term Satchitanada of Parambrahman.

>

> Or the term Advait (Not-Two)

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> Seeing how the notional mind took all these pointings to be gospels, goals,

objectives to be pursued and to be achieved as an experience,.....

>

> ....in order to negate this objectivising as " Parambrahman " , or " X " , Y " , " Z "

....

>

> .....yet another concept, was born through the organism labeled

Buddha,........ which was the nothingness of Nirvan, likened to the blowing

off,........ of the candle flame.

>

>

>

> Pointing that the very pointing is to a moon, where no moon

exists,.............a sound got uttered " Mu " , as yet another response for the

question.

>

> Or............. " your omelet is getting cold " .

>

>

> Or............. " enlightenment is that state of existing, when the very concept

of enlightenment, however conceived, has no relevance "

>

> Or,.................there was just the handing over of the Lotus Flower, when

seeing the absurdity of the question, a primal laughter arose through the very

seeker who had posited the question.

>

> Or, there was just a glance, a look in silence.

>

>

> The term " apperception " has been used in modern times,..................to

once again point to the perceiving without a perceiver thereof.

>

> The doing, without a doer thereof.

>

> Now while the term " apperception " is used in the context of Truth,

realization, enlightenment et al,...............it's actually the case even for

the context of licking an ice-cream cone.

>

>

> Within a phenomenal context,..................the primariness of the

functioning,.....

>

> .......functioning as the doing, perceiving, reacting, responding,

relating,.............in the moment,............moment to moment to

moment,........

>

> .....with the notional existence of the " perceiver-subject " and the separated

to it,........... " the perceived-object " ,..............

>

> ............this is pointed to, by the term apperceiving.

>

> That,.......a man who is seeking for realization is not only going round

searching for his spectacles,....... without realizing that they are on his nose

all the time, ...........but also were he not actually looking through

them,........ he would not be able to see what he is looking

for,..................this is pointed to, in the usage of the term

" apperceiving " .

>

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>

> If at all,............there is a movement in the moment,....... as a pointing.

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> Gentlemen of leisure, are loathe to stir themselves, even this much.

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