Fw: deva, wanna talk? -or- enlightenment and pain / eric

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" ericparoissien " <msrhood

<Nisargadatta >

Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:56 PM

Re: Fw: deva, wanna talk? -or- enlightenment and pain

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " dabo " <dscasta> wrote:

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> > this is why you are not a true seeker.

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> > (no offence)

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> e# some people say that they have found

> and their quest is over;

 

 

 

nobody around you has found, trust me.

those who have found are very rare.

 

those who SAY they have found

have simply found ways to numb the pain.

there are many ways.

 

how can you tell the difference?

a person who numbs the pain is also numbing his consciousness.

it is the same energy.

 

so usually these people are less alert and less sensitive.

but you have to have eyes and sensitivity to see it.

 

 

 

 

> it's lamentable,

> they say: " i just wanted the pain to stop,

> and now it has ended and there is nothing

> left for me to seek "

 

 

 

those who have found say

that finding is just the beginning of the journey.

the beginning of all.

 

enlightenment is not a dead state.

on the contrary, life starts with it.

freedom starts with it.

 

what precedes it is just the robotlike existence

of a conditioned mind.

 

don't you feel like a robot sometimes?

controlled by your habits, by your desires,

by your d*ck?

 

 

 

 

 

> so there never was a quest then?

 

 

 

there is a quest but it's just a game.

they say:

you are god, who is hiding from himself.

playing with himself.

 

the moment you realize it's just a game,

the quest is over.

 

 

 

 

> To me i see a strong sense of separation

> between me and others,

> i judge them or admire them,

> my attitude to a person can change

> if he flatters me or insults me;

 

 

 

 

everybody is like this.

it is called ego.

 

 

 

 

> i don't think i could stay peacefully

> seated three days in a row,

> one hour is quite enough.

 

 

 

big problem it is.

it is just too much energy

and too little knowledge on your part

about what energy is.

 

 

 

 

> And what about sexuality? the problem

> is an ordeal, i want women i don't have,

> it is an area of vain quest and frustration.

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actually,

this is probably the biggest issue of all.

it is either sex or enlightenment.

sex is dragging your energies downward - to your d*ck.

consciousness is lifting you higher.

 

do you know that a buddha transcends sex?

there is no lust in a buddha.

no sexual desire.

 

the energy starts flowing upwards.

 

but maybe i've lost you long ago...

 

 

 

 

 

Eric,

you are much closer to the truth

than these internet verbal jerk-offs that you admire.

you know why?

because in this game, the only thing that matters is honesty.

 

the moment your honesty is absolute

is the moment you know who you are.

they call it enlightenment.

 

listen to this,

the most beautiful thing i ever heard...

 

 

 

 

To perfect oneself is honesty.

 

(Lao Tzu)

 

 

 

 

 

 

he has found.

 

 

if all this feels like preaching, remember:

dabo doesn't' know shit.

this is just information i got from the source,

that's all.

it is not experience.

 

 

dabo your friend

 

 

 

 

 

p.s.

you sure you are happy?