Fw: deva, wanna talk? -or- enlightenment and pain / eric

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Nisargadatta , " dabo " <dscasta> wrote:

>

> -

> " ericparoissien " <msrhood@a...>

> <Nisargadatta >

> Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:56 PM

> Re: Fw: deva, wanna talk? -or-

enlightenment and pain

>

>

> > Nisargadatta , " dabo " <dscasta> wrote:

> > >

> >

> > snip

> >

> > > this is why you are not a true seeker.

> > >

> > > (no offence)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > d

> >

> > e# some people say that they have found

> > and their quest is over;

>

>

>

> nobody around you has found, trust me.

> those who have found are very rare.

>

> those who SAY they have found

> have simply found ways to numb the pain.

> there are many ways.

>

> how can you tell the difference?

> a person who numbs the pain is also numbing his consciousness.

> it is the same energy.

>

> so usually these people are less alert and less sensitive.

> but you have to have eyes and sensitivity to see it.

>

>

>

>

> > it's lamentable,

> > they say: " i just wanted the pain to stop,

> > and now it has ended and there is nothing

> > left for me to seek "

>

>

>

> those who have found say

> that finding is just the beginning of the journey.

> the beginning of all.

>

> enlightenment is not a dead state.

> on the contrary, life starts with it.

> freedom starts with it.

>

> what precedes it is just the robotlike existence

> of a conditioned mind.

>

> don't you feel like a robot sometimes?

> controlled by your habits, by your desires,

> by your d*ck?

>

>

>

>

>

> > so there never was a quest then?

>

>

>

> there is a quest but it's just a game.

> they say:

> you are god, who is hiding from himself.

> playing with himself.

>

> the moment you realize it's just a game,

> the quest is over.

>

>

>

>

> > To me i see a strong sense of separation

> > between me and others,

> > i judge them or admire them,

> > my attitude to a person can change

> > if he flatters me or insults me;

>

>

>

>

> everybody is like this.

> it is called ego.

>

>

>

>

> > i don't think i could stay peacefully

> > seated three days in a row,

> > one hour is quite enough.

>

>

>

> big problem it is.

> it is just too much energy

> and too little knowledge on your part

> about what energy is.

>

>

>

>

> > And what about sexuality? the problem

> > is an ordeal, i want women i don't have,

> > it is an area of vain quest and frustration.

> >

> >

>

>

>

> actually,

> this is probably the biggest issue of all.

> it is either sex or enlightenment.

> sex is dragging your energies downward - to your d*ck.

> consciousness is lifting you higher.

>

> do you know that a buddha transcends sex?

> there is no lust in a buddha.

> no sexual desire.

>

> the energy starts flowing upwards.

>

> but maybe i've lost you long ago...

>

>

>

>

>

> Eric,

> you are much closer to the truth

> than these internet verbal jerk-offs that you admire.

> you know why?

> because in this game, the only thing that matters is honesty.

>

> the moment your honesty is absolute

> is the moment you know who you are.

> they call it enlightenment.

>

> listen to this,

> the most beautiful thing i ever heard...

>

>

>

>

> To perfect oneself is honesty.

>

> (Lao Tzu)

he has found.

>

>

> if all this feels like preaching, remember:

> dabo doesn't' know shit.

> this is just information i got from the source,

> that's all.

> it is not experience.

>

>

> dabo your friend

>

>

>

 

e# nice text i enjoyed it dabo

your friend too

 

>

>

> p.s.

> you sure you are happy?

 

when you ask, i look,

it feels great like being a warm wave,

if no one asks, i have no idea that i exist.

no awareness.

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-

" ericparoissien " <msrhood

<Nisargadatta >

Friday, April 02, 2004 1:20 AM

Re: Fw: deva, wanna talk? -or- enlightenment and pain /

eric

 

 

| Nisargadatta , " dabo " <dscasta> wrote:

| >

| > -

| > " ericparoissien " <msrhood@a...>

| > <Nisargadatta >

| > Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:56 PM

| > Re: Fw: deva, wanna talk? -or-

| enlightenment and pain

| >

| >

| > > Nisargadatta , " dabo " <dscasta> wrote:

| > > >

| > >

| > > snip

| > >

| > > > this is why you are not a true seeker.

| > > >

| > > > (no offence)

| > > >

| > > >

| > > >

| > > > d

| > >

| > > e# some people say that they have found

| > > and their quest is over;

| >

| >

| >

| > nobody around you has found, trust me.

| > those who have found are very rare.

| >

| > those who SAY they have found

| > have simply found ways to numb the pain.

| > there are many ways.

| >

| > how can you tell the difference?

| > a person who numbs the pain is also numbing his consciousness.

| > it is the same energy.

| >

| > so usually these people are less alert and less sensitive.

| > but you have to have eyes and sensitivity to see it.

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > > it's lamentable,

| > > they say: " i just wanted the pain to stop,

| > > and now it has ended and there is nothing

| > > left for me to seek "

| >

| >

| >

| > those who have found say

| > that finding is just the beginning of the journey.

| > the beginning of all.

| >

| > enlightenment is not a dead state.

| > on the contrary, life starts with it.

| > freedom starts with it.

| >

| > what precedes it is just the robotlike existence

| > of a conditioned mind.

| >

| > don't you feel like a robot sometimes?

| > controlled by your habits, by your desires,

| > by your d*ck?

| >

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > > so there never was a quest then?

| >

| >

| >

| > there is a quest but it's just a game.

| > they say:

| > you are god, who is hiding from himself.

| > playing with himself.

| >

| > the moment you realize it's just a game,

| > the quest is over.

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > > To me i see a strong sense of separation

| > > between me and others,

| > > i judge them or admire them,

| > > my attitude to a person can change

| > > if he flatters me or insults me;

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > everybody is like this.

| > it is called ego.

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > > i don't think i could stay peacefully

| > > seated three days in a row,

| > > one hour is quite enough.

| >

| >

| >

| > big problem it is.

| > it is just too much energy

| > and too little knowledge on your part

| > about what energy is.

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > > And what about sexuality? the problem

| > > is an ordeal, i want women i don't have,

| > > it is an area of vain quest and frustration.

| > >

| > >

| >

| >

| >

| > actually,

| > this is probably the biggest issue of all.

| > it is either sex or enlightenment.

| > sex is dragging your energies downward - to your d*ck.

| > consciousness is lifting you higher.

| >

| > do you know that a buddha transcends sex?

| > there is no lust in a buddha.

| > no sexual desire.

| >

| > the energy starts flowing upwards.

| >

| > but maybe i've lost you long ago...

| >

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > Eric,

| > you are much closer to the truth

| > than these internet verbal jerk-offs that you admire.

| > you know why?

| > because in this game, the only thing that matters is honesty.

| >

| > the moment your honesty is absolute

| > is the moment you know who you are.

| > they call it enlightenment.

| >

| > listen to this,

| > the most beautiful thing i ever heard...

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > To perfect oneself is honesty.

| >

| > (Lao Tzu)

| >

| >

| >

| >

| >

| >

| > he has found.

| >

| >

| > if all this feels like preaching, remember:

| > dabo doesn't' know shit.

| > this is just information i got from the source,

| > that's all.

| > it is not experience.

| >

| >

| > dabo your friend

| >

| >

| >

|

| e# nice text i enjoyed it dabo

| your friend too

|

| >

| >

| > p.s.

| > you sure you are happy?

|

| when you ask, i look,

| it feels great like being a warm wave,

| if no one asks, i have no idea that i exist.

| no awareness.

|

 

 

 

big problem it is.