Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 >This silence of which I speak isn't locatable in anything, >Isn't a property of something. It's not more in one part >of space, which is enclosed by a cell, and less in another >part of space, in which a cell is not. P: Man! Can you admit this is just a concept? Can you admit that this is just the way it appears to your brain? This brain can admit that is the way it appears to it too, but it resist the temptation to make that silence into a 'thing' outside. Silence is an absence, an absence is and unknown, an unknown could be either a true absence, or an inability to know, to perceive. D:>To call this stillness is simply a way of saying that it's not going anywhere, it's got no place to go. It's silent -- >not producing anything, not involved in making something happen. >Although it's never absent, it's missed. P: Can you see that to say: 'is never absent' is just a comforting conclusion- a kid holding to a conceptual teddy bear? Again your making stillness into an object- like 19th century scientist believed in an ether, and 21st century scientist believe in a Higgs field. Just theories to explain problems away. >Nonetheless, this stillness remains who we are. P:There you go again, Jimmy. Dan offering another comforting nonsense concept. You don't believe in entities apart from what is. So where does that statement come from? Why do you make it? To be naked in the naked moment. No concepts whatever, no explanations. Just the nakedness of this as it is. Could you dig it? I knew you could. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > >This silence of which I speak isn't locatable in anything, > >Isn't a property of something. It's not more in one part > >of space, which is enclosed by a cell, and less in another > >part of space, in which a cell is not. > > > P: Man! Can you admit this is just a concept? D: Man! Your concept that it's a concept, is a concept! Admit it! P: Can you admit that this is just > the way > it appears to your brain? D: Your brain is your concept. Admit it! P: This brain can admit that is the way it appears to > it too, but it > resist the temptation to make that silence into a 'thing' outside. D: Okay. So it can resist the temptation to make me into a thing outside. And now, it's conversing within itself. But it has no self. Oops -- the brain is gone. Oh well, it was just a concept. P: Silence is > an absence, > an absence is and unknown, an unknown could be either a true absence, or an > inability > to know, to perceive. D: An absence requires an activity to remove what was present. This silence of no activity, therefore isn't an absence of any sort. > D:>To call this stillness is simply a way of saying that it's > not going anywhere, it's got no place to go. It's silent -- > >not producing anything, not involved in making something happen. > > >Although it's never absent, it's missed. > > P: Can you see that to say: 'is never absent' is just a comforting > conclusion- a kid holding to a conceptual teddy bear? D: It was a sentence in a dialogue, which, once written, wasn't held, wasn't important. It was simply how I expressed myself at that moment. P: Again your making stillness into > an object- like 19th century scientist believed in an ether, and 21st century > scientist believe in a Higgs field. Just theories to explain problems away. D: Fine -- so not kids with teddy bears, we don't need to hold onto our brain like a lollipop. > >Nonetheless, this stillness remains who we are. > > P:There you go again, Jimmy. Dan offering another comforting nonsense concept. D: Nonsense! > P: You don't believe in entities apart from what is. So where does that > statement come from? > Why do you make it? D: You can make up any explanation that suits you. Explanation just lead to other explanations. They go 'round and 'round, just like the images we project, which we then chase after. >P: To be naked in the naked moment. No concepts whatever, no explanations. Just > the nakedness of this as it is. Could you dig it? I knew you could. D: Sure, nakedness in the sense that nothing could ever be added on top -- no covering, no adornment -- I can dig it dig it dig it. They can dig it dig it dig it. So, let's dig it, baby. :-) -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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