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In a message dated 5/24/2004 10:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, Pedsie2

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You are nada con carne- Nothingness incarnated,

and when the meat goes, you will be nada sin carne-

Pure nothingness. Buddha gave us the good news, after

many a lifetime there will be extinction. But the news

gets better, you are nothing now, and you will be nothing

after you die. No effort, no accumulation of merits, no

down payment needed. Whether you're good, bad, or even ugly

all you have to do is die. You can die now, you can die later,

your extinction is guarantee because you don't even exist

this very moment. So rejoice in your true nature, zilch,

nothing, nada.

 

Pete

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/24/2004 10:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Pedsie2

> writes:

> You are nada con carne- Nothingness incarnated,

> and when the meat goes, you will be nada sin carne-

> Pure nothingness. Buddha gave us the good news, after

> many a lifetime there will be extinction. But the news

> gets better, you are nothing now, and you will be nothing

> after you die. No effort, no accumulation of merits, no

> down payment needed. Whether you're good, bad, or even ugly

> all you have to do is die. You can die now, you can die later,

> your extinction is guarantee because you don't even exist

> this very moment. So rejoice in your true nature, zilch,

> nothing, nada.

>

> Pete

>

 

I am That which is between pure awareness and what pure awareness is

aware of. And what is between the seer and the seen? The answer is:

nothing! :-)

 

/AL

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But who Perceives this Nothingnesss .. WHo is it that says that Iam Nothingness

incarnated ...

Murali,

 

 

 

anders_lindman [anders_lindman]

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:57 PM

Nisargadatta

Re: Nada Con Carne

 

 

Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/24/2004 10:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Pedsie2

> writes:

> You are nada con carne- Nothingness incarnated,

> and when the meat goes, you will be nada sin carne-

> Pure nothingness. Buddha gave us the good news, after

> many a lifetime there will be extinction. But the news

> gets better, you are nothing now, and you will be nothing

> after you die. No effort, no accumulation of merits, no

> down payment needed. Whether you're good, bad, or even ugly

> all you have to do is die. You can die now, you can die later,

> your extinction is guarantee because you don't even exist

> this very moment. So rejoice in your true nature, zilch,

> nothing, nada.

>

> Pete

>

 

I am That which is between pure awareness and what pure awareness is

aware of. And what is between the seer and the seen? The answer is:

nothing! :-)

 

/AL

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(MED\) "

<Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote:

> But who Perceives this Nothingnesss .. WHo is it that says that Iam

Nothingness incarnated ...

> Murali,

 

Only pure awareness is the Perceiver. Only that which in relation to

time is still is able to observe time passing. So pure awareness

observes events pass by in time. These events themselves contain

ideas like " I am Nothingness " and the like. Perhaps it would be more

correct to say " there is no separate me " than " I am nothing " . Or one

could perhaps say " as a separate me I am nothing " . Or, " I am both

timeless awareness and the passing show in time and they are

connected in my present moment. " .

 

/AL

 

>

>

>

> anders_lindman [anders_lindman]

> Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:57 PM

> Nisargadatta

> Re: Nada Con Carne

>

>

> Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 5/24/2004 10:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> Pedsie2

> > writes:

> > You are nada con carne- Nothingness incarnated,

> > and when the meat goes, you will be nada sin carne-

> > Pure nothingness. Buddha gave us the good news, after

> > many a lifetime there will be extinction. But the news

> > gets better, you are nothing now, and you will be nothing

> > after you die. No effort, no accumulation of merits, no

> > down payment needed. Whether you're good, bad, or even ugly

> > all you have to do is die. You can die now, you can die later,

> > your extinction is guarantee because you don't even exist

> > this very moment. So rejoice in your true nature, zilch,

> > nothing, nada.

> >

> > Pete

> >

>

> I am That which is between pure awareness and what pure awareness

is

> aware of. And what is between the seer and the seen? The answer is:

> nothing! :-)

>

> /AL

>

>

>

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Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(MED\) "

<Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote:

> But who Perceives this Nothingnesss .. WHo is it that says that Iam

Nothingness incarnated ...

> Murali,

 

Hi Murali,

 

There is no who. Only perception without a perceiver. There is no

'I " and no 'am' either. How can nothing be divided? Not even in math

can that be done. 0/0 is a meanigless operation.

 

Pete

 

>

>

>

> anders_lindman [anders_lindman]

> Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:57 PM

> Nisargadatta

> Re: Nada Con Carne

>

>

> Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 5/24/2004 10:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> Pedsie2

> > writes:

> > You are nada con carne- Nothingness incarnated,

> > and when the meat goes, you will be nada sin carne-

> > Pure nothingness. Buddha gave us the good news, after

> > many a lifetime there will be extinction. But the news

> > gets better, you are nothing now, and you will be nothing

> > after you die. No effort, no accumulation of merits, no

> > down payment needed. Whether you're good, bad, or even ugly

> > all you have to do is die. You can die now, you can die later,

> > your extinction is guarantee because you don't even exist

> > this very moment. So rejoice in your true nature, zilch,

> > nothing, nada.

> >

> > Pete

> >

>

> I am That which is between pure awareness and what pure awareness

is

> aware of. And what is between the seer and the seen? The answer is:

> nothing! :-)

>

> /AL

>

>

>

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Dear Murali,

 

Don't bother - once you realized that you are nothing, that you don't

exist, and you tell that to otheres you will know who will tell that -

it is not Pete or Bill - it is YOU.

 

Thanks heavens we have got an ego which is our bridge for

communication (and it hopefully still exists) but the identification

with that ego is gone. The identication process (investment of

effort) caused the illusion of a separate " me " and not the ego

itself - (ego = personal history).

 

Werner

 

 

Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(MED\) "

<Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote:

> But who Perceives this Nothingnesss .. WHo is it that says that Iam

Nothingness incarnated ...

> Murali,

>

>

>

> anders_lindman [anders_lindman]

> Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:57 PM

> Nisargadatta

> Re: Nada Con Carne

>

>

> Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 5/24/2004 10:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> Pedsie2

> > writes:

> > You are nada con carne- Nothingness incarnated,

> > and when the meat goes, you will be nada sin carne-

> > Pure nothingness. Buddha gave us the good news, after

> > many a lifetime there will be extinction. But the news

> > gets better, you are nothing now, and you will be nothing

> > after you die. No effort, no accumulation of merits, no

> > down payment needed. Whether you're good, bad, or even ugly

> > all you have to do is die. You can die now, you can die later,

> > your extinction is guarantee because you don't even exist

> > this very moment. So rejoice in your true nature, zilch,

> > nothing, nada.

> >

> > Pete

> >

>

> I am That which is between pure awareness and what pure awareness

is

> aware of. And what is between the seer and the seen? The answer is:

> nothing! :-)

>

> /AL

>

>

>

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>

>

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Hey Werner,

 

Good to hear from you. Still hanging around the j_K list? How is the

inquiring going there? :)

 

Pete

 

Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

> Dear Murali,

>

> Don't bother - once you realized that you are nothing, that you

don't

> exist, and you tell that to otheres you will know who will tell

that -

> it is not Pete or Bill - it is YOU.

>

> Thanks heavens we have got an ego which is our bridge for

> communication (and it hopefully still exists) but the

identification

> with that ego is gone. The identication process (investment of

> effort) caused the illusion of a separate " me " and not the ego

> itself - (ego = personal history).

>

> Werner

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(MED\) "

> <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote:

> > But who Perceives this Nothingnesss .. WHo is it that says that

Iam

> Nothingness incarnated ...

> > Murali,

> >

> >

> >

> > anders_lindman [anders_lindman]

> > Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:57 PM

> > Nisargadatta

> > Re: Nada Con Carne

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

> > > In a message dated 5/24/2004 10:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> > Pedsie2

> > > writes:

> > > You are nada con carne- Nothingness incarnated,

> > > and when the meat goes, you will be nada sin carne-

> > > Pure nothingness. Buddha gave us the good news, after

> > > many a lifetime there will be extinction. But the news

> > > gets better, you are nothing now, and you will be nothing

> > > after you die. No effort, no accumulation of merits, no

> > > down payment needed. Whether you're good, bad, or even ugly

> > > all you have to do is die. You can die now, you can die later,

> > > your extinction is guarantee because you don't even exist

> > > this very moment. So rejoice in your true nature, zilch,

> > > nothing, nada.

> > >

> > > Pete

> > >

> >

> > I am That which is between pure awareness and what pure awareness

> is

> > aware of. And what is between the seer and the seen? The answer

is:

> > nothing! :-)

> >

> > /AL

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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> Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Pete,

 

Cerosoul = Seesaw ? Please help me out if I should be wrong.

 

In the last months I rarely was visiting the JK list. Since the JB

desaster it seems a lot of members turned their back to the list.

 

At the moment one of its members " moxk " , (in my eyes) does a pretty

good job putting the nose of the high-brows there to the fact that

they just deal with concepts and ideas without experiencing the real.

 

BTW, I really like your new nick. Is it synonimous to your reality or

just kind of a wishful spell (which is ok, don't misunderstand me) ?

 

Werner

 

 

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote:

> Hey Werner,

>

> Good to hear from you. Still hanging around the j_K list? How is

the

> inquiring going there? :)

>

> Pete

>

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

> Hi Pete,

>

> Cerosoul = Seesaw ? Please help me out if I should be wrong.

 

Hi Werner,

 

P:Yes, my email used to be seesaw, but I gave it up. Still

i'm the same Pete, I think?

 

 

>

> BTW, I really like your new nick. Is it synonimous to your reality

or

> just kind of a wishful spell (which is ok, don't misunderstand me) ?

>

> Werner

>

>

P: Well, I haven't found anything inside I could call my own, and

that includes a soul. So I guess cerosoul will do for the time

being. :)

 

 

Pete

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