Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > People, myself included, are like ice cubes trying to cope > with > > > the > > > > > world in a form of a constant struggle. This struggle is so > > > normal > > > > > that we often don't even see it as a struggle but as an > > ordinary > > > > way > > > > > of living. This struggle, this internal conflict has to > > dissolve > > > in > > > > > order to become relaxed in all circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > Nothing has to do anything. > > > > > > > > Just because you imagine yourself as an ice cube, > > > > doesn't make anything have to happen. > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > It is not me who is doing the imagining. It is only me doing the > > > imagining if we think of me as Self. > > > > > > /AL > > > > If you stop imagining yourself as an ice cube, it > > won't matter at that point what we think of you as. > > > > -- Dan > > If I stop imagining myself the Self is revealed. :-) > > /AL I don't have or get a name for what is revealed. As there is nothing else -- there is no need for, nor even possibility of, a name. What is revealed has no quality of self, has nothing to do with a self -- there is no reason to name it Self. It might just as easily be labelled Other as Self, as there is no self-quality *here*. But with no self established, no other is established, so Other wouldn't pertain. Thus, neither self nor other have any anchoring *here*. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People, myself included, are like ice cubes trying to cope > > with > > > > the > > > > > > world in a form of a constant struggle. This struggle is so > > > > normal > > > > > > that we often don't even see it as a struggle but as an > > > ordinary > > > > > way > > > > > > of living. This struggle, this internal conflict has to > > > dissolve > > > > in > > > > > > order to become relaxed in all circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > Nothing has to do anything. > > > > > > > > > > Just because you imagine yourself as an ice cube, > > > > > doesn't make anything have to happen. > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > It is not me who is doing the imagining. It is only me doing > the > > > > imagining if we think of me as Self. > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > If you stop imagining yourself as an ice cube, it > > > won't matter at that point what we think of you as. > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > If I stop imagining myself the Self is revealed. :-) > > > > /AL > > I don't have or get a name for what is revealed. > > As there is nothing else -- there is no need for, > nor even possibility of, a name. > > What is revealed has no quality of self, has nothing > to do with a self -- there is no reason to name it Self. > > It might just as easily be labelled Other as Self, as there is > no self-quality *here*. > > But with no self established, no other is established, > so Other wouldn't pertain. > > Thus, neither self nor other have any anchoring *here*. > > -- Dan The true Self is revealed when the self is obliterated. :-) And I mean Obliterated! /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > The true Self is revealed when the self is obliterated. :-) And I > mean Obliterated! > > /AL Sure, and then, the true Self is obliterated. And then obliteration drops. And then, now and then drop. Thus, dropping dissolves. Dissolution now is irrelevant, as there is nothing coming together. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > The true Self is revealed when the self is obliterated. :-) And I > > mean Obliterated! > > > > /AL > > Sure, and then, the true Self is obliterated. > > And then obliteration drops. > > And then, now and then drop. > > Thus, dropping dissolves. > > Dissolution now is irrelevant, > as there is nothing coming together. > > -- Dan The solar plexus must be released and the knot in one's heart must be torn asunder. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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