Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 The idea that there is no " I " separate and apart from brahma, or the totality, or what-have-you seems very sensible. Yet accepting that " intellectually " (as they say), while it brings some relief, does not keep me from continuing in the habit of thinking of " I " as if separate and at odds with things and circumstances that occur to " me. " So then what? Is that just not a problem in the first place? Who's asking that? Who just asked who's asking that? OK, I feel better now. But by tomorrow I'll be at it again, in all likelihood. Then what? Or rather, now what? I'm still in the spin cycle here. Sven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 > >The idea that there is no " I " separate and apart from brahma, or the >totality, or what-have-you seems very sensible. Yet accepting >that " intellectually " (as they say), while it brings some relief, >does not keep me from continuing in the habit of thinking of " I " as >if separate and at odds with things and circumstances that occur >to " me. " > >So then what? Is that just not a problem in the first place? Who's >asking that? Who just asked who's asking that? > >OK, I feel better now. > >But by tomorrow I'll be at it again, in all likelihood. Then what? >Or rather, now what? I'm still in the spin cycle here. > >Sven. Join the club, Sven :-)......I prefer the rinse cycle myself....spin cycle just drains me :-) RL, FPI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Hi Sven, - " svenchadodi " <svenchadodi <Nisargadatta > Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:43 AM Now What? > The idea that there is no " I " separate and apart from brahma, or the > totality, or what-have-you seems very sensible. To whom? > Yet accepting that " intellectually " (as they say), while it brings some relief, > does not keep me from continuing in the habit of thinking of " I " as > if separate and at odds with things and circumstances that occur > to " me. " Yes. It is not suprising that the hoopla continues. > > So then what? Is that just not a problem in the first place? Who's > asking that? Who just asked who's asking that? > > OK, I feel better now. :-) " So then what " , is of relevance only to that sense of the " me " , (which found the idea of non-separation, sensible) " So then what " , can only arise within a belief structure, that there is to be something more, something beyond this, the moment as it is. A belief structure, which is nothing but the sense of the entity, the sense of the me, the sense of an individual self. The sense of the " me " , which can only exist as a sense of " need-to-become " . > > But by tomorrow I'll be at it again, in all likelihood. Then what? > Or rather, now what? I'm still in the spin cycle here. If you are so moved, idly observe the same cyclist spinning that same cycle again. Or get fully involved. What is all that spin-doctoring to do with you, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Nisargadatta , " svenchadodi " <svenchadodi> wrote: > The idea that there is no " I " separate and apart from brahma, or the > totality, or what-have-you seems very sensible. Yet accepting > that " intellectually " (as they say), while it brings some relief, > does not keep me from continuing in the habit of thinking of " I " as > if separate and at odds with things and circumstances that occur > to " me. " You see, the habit of thinking this or that is not in your control. > > So then what? Is that just not a problem in the first place? Who's > asking that? Who just asked who's asking that? > > OK, I feel better now. > > But by tomorrow I'll be at it again, in all likelihood. Then what? > Or rather, now what? I'm still in the spin cycle here. > > Sven. You are not in control of anything. Observe the world as a movie projected from the One Source. In order to be able to alter the Source you must _be_ the Source and the Source is not the past, the Source is what _creates_ the past. You, as an individual person, are being created by this Source. The only thing you see and can be aware of has already been created by the Source, _inluding_ all your ideas. Including every single idea you call " your " idea. Even the very sense of being " you " is only the past and has already been created by the Source. Your present awareness is where the Source begins. The Source begins in you. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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