Truth

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By Gene Poole

 

At the risk of starting yet another

'debate' concerning 'what truth

really is', I will comment on your

above statement:

 

" ...and so the simple truth that always exists... "

 

I would offer, that positing 'what we are

really talking about' as 'truth' is misleading,

and succeeds in misdirecting attention FROM

the 'pervasive background' (what you refer to

as 'a mere patch of dirt') to one or more of the

vaunted concepts which stand in the foreground,

to the detriment of the efforts of the true 'seeker'.

 

It seems that if the 'seeker' can or would simply

stop 'seeking', that in the deliberate moment of

suspension of such 'doing', that the 'pervasive

background' will perhaps, suddenly be seen for

what it is.

 

'Truth that always exists' is, in fact, dependent

upon a mind-system of reference and comparison;

and so, the statement:

 

'Truth exists only in language'

 

It is a fact that the lifelong, conditioned

habits of perception, for which we are

rewarded (stroked, diploma-ed, etc)

so richly, are built upon the reality of

the 'pervasive background'; yet, how often

does the 'conditioned perceiver' turn attention

to the very foundations of perception itself?

 

It is possible (and taught as various sorts

of meditation 'techniques') to become

proficient in the act of suspending 'active

perception'. Passively perceiving, removes

the value-status priority assignments which

have become strongly associated with the

objects of perception; this behaviour, if

persistent, allows the 'pervasive background'

to become the main actor within the field of

perception.

 

Finally, perhaps we can see that by allowing

things to be 'simply what they are', that we

will see what they are. By suspending our

learned, categorical system of object-and-

event 'identification', it becomes possible

to allow the perception of the literal unity

of time and space; 'nondual' perception.

 

It seems to me, that this 'level-101' sort

of practice, is the obligatory presage to any

'spiritual' investigations which may be desired

to be conducted. From the 'value-neutral'

ground of the 'pervasive background',

may spring the realizations which originally

gave root to all 'spiritual' assumptions.

 

 

==Gene Poole==

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

> By Gene Poole

>

> At the risk of starting yet another

> 'debate' concerning 'what truth

> really is', I will comment on your

> above statement:

>

> " ...and so the simple truth that always exists... "

>

> I would offer, that positing 'what we are

> really talking about' as 'truth' is misleading,

> and succeeds in misdirecting attention FROM

> the 'pervasive background' (what you refer to

> as 'a mere patch of dirt') to one or more of the

> vaunted concepts which stand in the foreground,

> to the detriment of the efforts of the true 'seeker'.

>

> It seems that if the 'seeker' can or would simply

> stop 'seeking', that in the deliberate moment of

> suspension of such 'doing', that the 'pervasive

> background' will perhaps, suddenly be seen for

> what it is.

>

> 'Truth that always exists' is, in fact, dependent

> upon a mind-system of reference and comparison;

> and so, the statement:

>

> 'Truth exists only in language'

>

> It is a fact that the lifelong, conditioned

> habits of perception, for which we are

> rewarded (stroked, diploma-ed, etc)

> so richly, are built upon the reality of

> the 'pervasive background'; yet, how often

> does the 'conditioned perceiver' turn attention

> to the very foundations of perception itself?

>

> It is possible (and taught as various sorts

> of meditation 'techniques') to become

> proficient in the act of suspending 'active

> perception'. Passively perceiving, removes

> the value-status priority assignments which

> have become strongly associated with the

> objects of perception; this behaviour, if

> persistent, allows the 'pervasive background'

> to become the main actor within the field of

> perception.

>

> Finally, perhaps we can see that by allowing

> things to be 'simply what they are', that we

> will see what they are. By suspending our

> learned, categorical system of object-and-

> event 'identification', it becomes possible

> to allow the perception of the literal unity

> of time and space; 'nondual' perception.

>

> It seems to me, that this 'level-101' sort

> of practice, is the obligatory presage to any

> 'spiritual' investigations which may be desired

> to be conducted. From the 'value-neutral'

> ground of the 'pervasive background',

> may spring the realizations which originally

> gave root to all 'spiritual' assumptions.

>

>

> ==Gene Poole==

>

>

>