Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 8:57:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > Someone says something......the neurons in this synaptic complex begin > to > > sizzle........the fingers begin to type and as I read what comes > > through........sometimes........I am left breathless. > > > > > > I search for words to articulate the clarity that is ever-present > > and.......you know.......by golly......they always fall short by a mile. > > > > But I have fun shooting arrows at the moon. > > > > It is known that the attempt is futile........but every once in a > > while.....one makes the most beautiful arch before it returns to the > earth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ***What self serving nonsense..... > > > > > > > > > > You are not self serving? toombaru > > > > ***No, I'm not. Not unless you choose to distort my meaning. words? " you " ? " I " ? " choose " ? " meaning " ? what self serving bullshit. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:51 PM Re: Perceiving Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:41 PM > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > geo> Memory, repetition, good, bad, need, no-need, survival. > > With evolution, society...all that stuff...man invented new needs and > > the > > inner entity became more complex in a psichological field. > > Except that it still has never been able to be there. > > How complex can something become, that has never had a way to be there in > the first place? > > The illusion of " becoming " for an imagined self has become more complex. > There are more ways for a self-image to develop in a more complex society. > > -- D. > > Yes. No real entity in there. What is complex is the net of conditionings. > Somehow this inner complexity createa a halo that has a certain > stability...and the illusion is formed. > -geo- it's only there to whatever extent you believe it to be. the complexity. the " inner. " geo>And there is no graduality in this belief avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 29/5/2009 07:26:20 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 12:14 AM Re: Perceiving Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 5:53:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > > > > > Where? > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > ***Here. > > > > > > Where is here? > > > > > > I don't see it. > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it. > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > ****You have used labels for many 'things' you don't see. > > > Are you sure? > > Where are they? > > -- D. > > > > ***I'm with Geo, I don't like to play word games either. > > > You ARE a word game. toombaru Haa...thats good. -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 29/5/2009 07:26:25 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 3:00 AM Re: Perceiving Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > geo> Memory, repetition, good, bad, need, no-need, survival. > > With evolution, society...all that stuff...man invented new needs and > > the > > inner entity became more complex in a psichological field. > > Except that it still has never been able to be there. > > How complex can something become, that has never had a way to be > there in the first place? Infinitely, eh? Infinity is the opposite of nothing. geo> I can not agree with this tim. Fortunately no matter how complex those miss-conections happen they are always limited! That is what allows us to " stamp " them. Its limitedness, its boundness is what allows us to see this totality that is called consciousness as one movement. All that limited complexity happens in a quite narrow field. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 29/5/2009 07:26:28 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/29/2009 8:20:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dan330033 writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > > ***What self serving nonsense..... If there would be no more self-serving nonsense posted on this list, how many posts would there be?.d. ****None, but not because folks aren't capable of more. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 8:57:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > Someone says something......the neurons in this synaptic complex begin > to > > sizzle........the fingers begin to type and as I read what comes > > through........sometimes........I am left breathless. > > > > > > I search for words to articulate the clarity that is ever-present > > and.......you know.......by golly......they always fall short by a mile. > > > > But I have fun shooting arrows at the moon. > > > > It is known that the attempt is futile........but every once in a > > while.....one makes the most beautiful arch before it returns to the > earth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ***What self serving nonsense..... > > > > > > > > > > You are not self serving? toombaru > > > > ***No, I'm not. Not unless you choose to distort my meaning. > > > > You have your very own meaning? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 5:53:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***Here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****You have used labels for many 'things' you don't see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you sure? > > > > > > > > > > Where are they? > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I'm with Geo, I don't like to play word games either. > > > > > > > > It's not a word game. > > > > > > > > It's an invitation. > > > > > > > > To perception unlabeled. > > > > > > > > Can you sit a label in a chair? > > > > > > > > Labels: only there as much as you believe them to be there, only there as much as you react to them. > > > > > > > > .D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind and its spurious self cannot " sse " anything unless it has a label for it. > > > > > > Can you think of anything that doesn't have a name. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > I agree. > > > > .D. > > > > > > Can the conceptual mind have assess to that which it imagines lies beyond its purview? > > > > toombaru no, young skywalker. the " it " behind the imagining is not. grasping it, is not. ..yoda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 5:53:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***Here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****You have used labels for many 'things' you don't see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you sure? > > > > > > > > > > > > Where are they? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***I'm with Geo, I don't like to play word games either. > > > > > > > > > > It's not a word game. > > > > > > > > > > It's an invitation. > > > > > > > > > > To perception unlabeled. > > > > > > > > > > Can you sit a label in a chair? > > > > > > > > > > Labels: only there as much as you believe them to be there, only there as much as you react to them. > > > > > > > > > > .D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual mind and its spurious self cannot " sse " anything unless it has a label for it. > > > > > > > > Can you think of anything that doesn't have a name. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > I agree. > > > > > > .D. > > > > > > > > > > > Can the conceptual mind have assess to that which it imagines lies beyond its purview? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > no, young skywalker. > > the " it " behind the imagining is not. > > grasping it, is not. > > > .yoda. yada. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > ***What self serving nonsense..... If there would be no more self-serving nonsense posted on this list, how many posts would there be? ..d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > geo> Memory, repetition, good, bad, need, no-need, survival. > > > With evolution, society...all that stuff...man invented new needs and the > > > inner entity became more complex in a psichological field. > > > > Except that it still has never been able to be there. > > > > How complex can something become, that has never had a way to be > > there in the first place? > > Infinitely, eh? > > Infinity is the opposite of nothing. I am too simple to understand anything that has been said. ..d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 8:57:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > Someone says something......the neurons in this synaptic complex begin > to > > sizzle........the fingers begin to type and as I read what comes > > through........sometimes........I am left breathless. > > > > > > I search for words to articulate the clarity that is ever-present > > and.......you know.......by golly......they always fall short by a mile. > > > > But I have fun shooting arrows at the moon. > > > > It is known that the attempt is futile........but every once in a > > while.....one makes the most beautiful arch before it returns to the > earth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ***What self serving nonsense..... > > > > > > > > > > You are not self serving? toombaru > > > > ***No, I'm not. Not unless you choose to distort my meaning. pffft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > ***What self serving nonsense..... > > If there would be no more self-serving nonsense posted on this list, how many posts would there be? > > .d. there wouldn't be this list if the nonsense ended what do you mean? do you entertain the notion that what you just posted is not nonsense? silly guy. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:51 PM > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:41 PM > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > geo> Memory, repetition, good, bad, need, no-need, survival. > > > With evolution, society...all that stuff...man invented new needs and > > > the > > > inner entity became more complex in a psichological field. > > > > Except that it still has never been able to be there. > > > > How complex can something become, that has never had a way to be there in > > the first place? > > > > The illusion of " becoming " for an imagined self has become more complex. > > There are more ways for a self-image to develop in a more complex society. > > > > -- D. > > > > Yes. No real entity in there. What is complex is the net of conditionings. > > Somehow this inner complexity createa a halo that has a certain > > stability...and the illusion is formed. > > -geo- > > it's only there to whatever extent you believe it to be. > > the complexity. > > the " inner. " > > geo>And there is no graduality in this belief > no graduality. no belief has been built. flying. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:51 PM > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:41 PM > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > geo> Memory, repetition, good, bad, need, no-need, survival. > > > > With evolution, society...all that stuff...man invented new needs and > > > > the > > > > inner entity became more complex in a psichological field. > > > > > > Except that it still has never been able to be there. > > > > > > How complex can something become, that has never had a way to be there in > > > the first place? > > > > > > The illusion of " becoming " for an imagined self has become more complex. > > > There are more ways for a self-image to develop in a more complex society. > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > Yes. No real entity in there. What is complex is the net of conditionings. > > > Somehow this inner complexity createa a halo that has a certain > > > stability...and the illusion is formed. > > > -geo- > > > > it's only there to whatever extent you believe it to be. > > > > the complexity. > > > > the " inner. " > > > > geo>And there is no graduality in this belief > > > > no graduality. > > no belief has been built. > > flying. > > . " graduality " ?? ho ho! i like word games. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 8:20:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > ***What self serving nonsense..... > > If there would be no more self-serving nonsense posted on this list, how > many posts would there be? > > .d. > > > ****None, but not because folks aren't capable of more. nice proof regarding the nonsense. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 8:20:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ***What self serving nonsense..... > > > > If there would be no more self-serving nonsense posted on this list, how > > many posts would there be? > > > > .d. > > > > > > ****None, but not because folks aren't capable of more. > > > > nice proof regarding the nonsense. > > .b b.b. true. ..d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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