Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Posted July 1, 2004 At last, I have an appoinment with God. He/She/It will explain everything to me. Finally! Thank heaven for that. Me: God, why did you create me? God: Because I wanted to see how one could really make a fool of oneself, and that is why I created you. M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. G: M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even though I sometimes make mistakes. G: M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten a chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several nice cars? G: If I would have made you smart you would have recognized that there is no future and then there would not be any playing or acting going on. M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why didn't you create a good play? G: I'm just warming up. M: ? G: You need to suffer in order to see the good. If you never would have suffered, then you would not be able to feel good. M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less painful? G: You need to experience darkness in order to recognize light. I am infinite Light and you need infinite darkness in order to recognize Me. M: How horrible! G: Only in your mind. M: God, what is time? G: You don't know what time is because you do not recognize Me yet. M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can You be recognized? G: I have no form, for I am every form. I have no fashion, for I am every fashion. M: God, why did you create handicapped children? G: I do not create anything. I Am everything. M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world into a better place? G: I Am everything. Every change is Me, but MySelf is unchangeable. If I could change, then I could be destroyed. I cannot be destroyed. I am the Unmoved Mover of the world. M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the world a better place? G: I Move, but I do not change either MySelf or the world. The world is MySelf and I am changeless. M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot do anything anyway. G: My dear child, there never has been a Me able to do anything, nor is there any you able to do anything. M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? G: What is a point? M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? G: What is purpose? M: Meaning, what is the meaning of all this? G: Meaning is found in the relation to Me. M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother to have a relation to something powerless? G: I Am the answer to all questions. M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all other than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. G: What is power? M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a specified purpose. G: I Am this power, for I am all that is happening. M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? G: I do not make things happen, I Am all that happens. M: Then you would also be me. G: Yes. :-) /AL Quote
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Posted July 2, 2004 Hi, i am new to this group and fascinated with all you people talk about..replying to this as its really really good ..Thanks Anders..I am Masti .. anders_lindman <anders_lindman wrote:At last, I have an appoinment with God. He/She/It will explain everything to me. Finally! Thank heaven for that. Me: God, why did you create me? God: Because I wanted to see how one could really make a fool of oneself, and that is why I created you. M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. G: M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even though I sometimes make mistakes. G: M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten a chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several nice cars? G: If I would have made you smart you would have recognized that there is no future and then there would not be any playing or acting going on. M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why didn't you create a good play? G: I'm just warming up. M: ? G: You need to suffer in order to see the good. If you never would have suffered, then you would not be able to feel good. M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less painful? G: You need to experience darkness in order to recognize light. I am infinite Light and you need infinite darkness in order to recognize Me. M: How horrible! G: Only in your mind. M: God, what is time? G: You don't know what time is because you do not recognize Me yet. M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can You be recognized? G: I have no form, for I am every form. I have no fashion, for I am every fashion. M: God, why did you create handicapped children? G: I do not create anything. I Am everything. M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world into a better place? G: I Am everything. Every change is Me, but MySelf is unchangeable. If I could change, then I could be destroyed. I cannot be destroyed. I am the Unmoved Mover of the world. M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the world a better place? G: I Move, but I do not change either MySelf or the world. The world is MySelf and I am changeless. M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot do anything anyway. G: My dear child, there never has been a Me able to do anything, nor is there any you able to do anything. M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? G: What is a point? M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? G: What is purpose? M: Meaning, what is the meaning of all this? G: Meaning is found in the relation to Me. M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother to have a relation to something powerless? G: I Am the answer to all questions. M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all other than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. G: What is power? M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a specified purpose. G: I Am this power, for I am all that is happening. M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? G: I do not make things happen, I Am all that happens. M: Then you would also be me. G: Yes. :-) /AL ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Posted July 2, 2004 > Me: God, why did you create me? God: Why did YOU create me? > M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. G: Continue a little while the same way and, you will be soon a complete fool > M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even > though I sometimes make mistakes. G: You make more mistakes than anything and anyone else and you believe you are something especial. > M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten a chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several nice cars? G: You didn't deserve it! > M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why > didn't you create a good play? G: What the heck do I have to do with your life? > M: ? G: Yes! Don't bother me! Forget about me, simply! Leave me alone, so that I can disappear from where I came from eventually!!! > M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less > painful? G: Blame your self! Your life is not my business. Actually I don't have any business at all, besides the ones you are attributing to me. > M: How horrible! G: Oh, no. I was pretty fine until you came, asking me stupid questions! M: God, what is time? G: What you want it to be. M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can You be recognized? G: I have no name! M: God, why did you create handicapped children? G: YOU create them, like you create me and everything else! M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world into a better place? G: When did I say I am everything? You are ascribing things to me I never said! M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the world a better place? G: Stop shaking me! I'm not a cocktail! M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot do anything anyway. G: Ask yourself, yes, finally! Let me be what I am! > M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? > What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? G: This shit are YOU! M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? > G: YOU ask Me, again, imbecile! > M: what is the meaning of all this? > G: Ask yourself! > > M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are > powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother to have a relation to something powerless? > > G: Exactly! > > M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all other than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. > G: Should I lie to you? > M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a > specified purpose. > G: Wrong, you know that yourself! > M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? > > G: Nothing ever happened! > M: Then you would also be me. > > G: Not ALSO, jester, I am YOU!!! Quote
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Posted July 2, 2004 Nisargadatta , Mast Girl <mastteddy> wrote: > Hi, i am new to this group and fascinated with all you people talk about..replying to this as its really really good ..Thanks Anders..I am Masti .. Hi Masti, I am glad you liked it. This was a kind of a 'thoughtless' post. I just wrote what popped up in my mind. A kind of faked channeling. :-) /AL > > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote:At last, I have an appoinment with God. He/She/It will explain > everything to me. Finally! Thank heaven for that. > > Me: God, why did you create me? > > God: Because I wanted to see how one could really make a fool of > oneself, and that is why I created you. > > M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. > > G: > > M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even > though I sometimes make mistakes. > > G: > > M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten a > chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more > handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why > didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several > nice cars? > > G: If I would have made you smart you would have recognized that > there is no future and then there would not be any playing or acting > going on. > > M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why > didn't you create a good play? > > G: I'm just warming up. > > M: ? > > G: You need to suffer in order to see the good. If you never would > have suffered, then you would not be able to feel good. > > M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less > painful? > > G: You need to experience darkness in order to recognize light. I am > infinite Light and you need infinite darkness in order to recognize > Me. > > M: How horrible! > > G: Only in your mind. > > M: God, what is time? > > G: You don't know what time is because you do not recognize Me yet. > > M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can > You be recognized? > > G: I have no form, for I am every form. I have no fashion, for I am > every fashion. > > M: God, why did you create handicapped children? > > G: I do not create anything. I Am everything. > > M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world > into a better place? > > G: I Am everything. Every change is Me, but MySelf is unchangeable. > If I could change, then I could be destroyed. I cannot be destroyed. > I am the Unmoved Mover of the world. > > M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the > world a better place? > > G: I Move, but I do not change either MySelf or the world. The world > is MySelf and I am changeless. > > M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot > do anything anyway. > > G: My dear child, there never has been a Me able to do anything, nor > is there any you able to do anything. > > M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? > What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? > > G: What is a point? > > M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? > > G: What is purpose? > > M: Meaning, what is the meaning of all this? > > G: Meaning is found in the relation to Me. > > M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are > powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother to > have a relation to something powerless? > > G: I Am the answer to all questions. > > M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all other > than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. > > G: What is power? > > M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a > specified purpose. > > G: I Am this power, for I am all that is happening. > > M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? > > G: I do not make things happen, I Am all that happens. > > M: Then you would also be me. > > G: Yes. > > :-) > > /AL > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Posted July 2, 2004 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > Me: God, why did you create me? > > God: Why did YOU create me? > > > M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. > > G: Continue a little while the same way and, you will be soon a > complete fool > > > M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even > > though I sometimes make mistakes. > > G: You make more mistakes than anything and anyone else and you > believe you are something especial. > > > M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten > a chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more > handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why > didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several > nice cars? > > G: You didn't deserve it! > > > M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why > > didn't you create a good play? > > G: What the heck do I have to do with your life? > > > M: ? > > G: Yes! Don't bother me! Forget about me, simply! Leave me alone, so > that I can disappear from where I came from eventually!!! > > > > M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less > > painful? > > > G: Blame your self! Your life is not my business. Actually I don't > have any business at all, besides the ones you are attributing to me. > > > > M: How horrible! > > > G: Oh, no. I was pretty fine until you came, asking me stupid > questions! > > M: God, what is time? > > G: What you want it to be. > > M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can > You be recognized? > > G: I have no name! > > M: God, why did you create handicapped children? > > G: YOU create them, like you create me and everything else! > > M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world > into a better place? > > G: When did I say I am everything? You are ascribing things to me I > never said! > > M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the > world a better place? > > G: Stop shaking me! I'm not a cocktail! > > > M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot > do anything anyway. > > G: Ask yourself, yes, finally! Let me be what I am! > > > M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? > > What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? > > G: This shit are YOU! > > M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? > > > G: YOU ask Me, again, imbecile! > > > M: what is the meaning of all this? > > > G: Ask yourself! > > > > M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are > > powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother > to have a relation to something powerless? > > > > G: Exactly! > > > > M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all > other than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. > > > G: Should I lie to you? > > > > M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a > > specified purpose. > > > G: Wrong, you know that yourself! > > > > M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? > > > > G: Nothing ever happened! > > > > M: Then you would also be me. > > > > G: Not ALSO, jester, I am YOU!!! LOL! " Only God can say, I am " -- Meister Eckhart /AL Quote
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