Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 At last, I have an appoinment with God. He/She/It will explain everything to me. Finally! Thank heaven for that. Me: God, why did you create me? God: Because I wanted to see how one could really make a fool of oneself, and that is why I created you. M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. G: M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even though I sometimes make mistakes. G: M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten a chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several nice cars? G: If I would have made you smart you would have recognized that there is no future and then there would not be any playing or acting going on. M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why didn't you create a good play? G: I'm just warming up. M: ? G: You need to suffer in order to see the good. If you never would have suffered, then you would not be able to feel good. M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less painful? G: You need to experience darkness in order to recognize light. I am infinite Light and you need infinite darkness in order to recognize Me. M: How horrible! G: Only in your mind. M: God, what is time? G: You don't know what time is because you do not recognize Me yet. M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can You be recognized? G: I have no form, for I am every form. I have no fashion, for I am every fashion. M: God, why did you create handicapped children? G: I do not create anything. I Am everything. M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world into a better place? G: I Am everything. Every change is Me, but MySelf is unchangeable. If I could change, then I could be destroyed. I cannot be destroyed. I am the Unmoved Mover of the world. M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the world a better place? G: I Move, but I do not change either MySelf or the world. The world is MySelf and I am changeless. M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot do anything anyway. G: My dear child, there never has been a Me able to do anything, nor is there any you able to do anything. M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? G: What is a point? M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? G: What is purpose? M: Meaning, what is the meaning of all this? G: Meaning is found in the relation to Me. M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother to have a relation to something powerless? G: I Am the answer to all questions. M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all other than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. G: What is power? M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a specified purpose. G: I Am this power, for I am all that is happening. M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? G: I do not make things happen, I Am all that happens. M: Then you would also be me. G: Yes. :-) /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Hi, i am new to this group and fascinated with all you people talk about..replying to this as its really really good ..Thanks Anders..I am Masti .. anders_lindman <anders_lindman wrote:At last, I have an appoinment with God. He/She/It will explain everything to me. Finally! Thank heaven for that. Me: God, why did you create me? God: Because I wanted to see how one could really make a fool of oneself, and that is why I created you. M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. G: M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even though I sometimes make mistakes. G: M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten a chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several nice cars? G: If I would have made you smart you would have recognized that there is no future and then there would not be any playing or acting going on. M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why didn't you create a good play? G: I'm just warming up. M: ? G: You need to suffer in order to see the good. If you never would have suffered, then you would not be able to feel good. M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less painful? G: You need to experience darkness in order to recognize light. I am infinite Light and you need infinite darkness in order to recognize Me. M: How horrible! G: Only in your mind. M: God, what is time? G: You don't know what time is because you do not recognize Me yet. M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can You be recognized? G: I have no form, for I am every form. I have no fashion, for I am every fashion. M: God, why did you create handicapped children? G: I do not create anything. I Am everything. M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world into a better place? G: I Am everything. Every change is Me, but MySelf is unchangeable. If I could change, then I could be destroyed. I cannot be destroyed. I am the Unmoved Mover of the world. M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the world a better place? G: I Move, but I do not change either MySelf or the world. The world is MySelf and I am changeless. M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot do anything anyway. G: My dear child, there never has been a Me able to do anything, nor is there any you able to do anything. M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? G: What is a point? M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? G: What is purpose? M: Meaning, what is the meaning of all this? G: Meaning is found in the relation to Me. M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother to have a relation to something powerless? G: I Am the answer to all questions. M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all other than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. G: What is power? M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a specified purpose. G: I Am this power, for I am all that is happening. M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? G: I do not make things happen, I Am all that happens. M: Then you would also be me. G: Yes. :-) /AL ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 > Me: God, why did you create me? God: Why did YOU create me? > M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. G: Continue a little while the same way and, you will be soon a complete fool > M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even > though I sometimes make mistakes. G: You make more mistakes than anything and anyone else and you believe you are something especial. > M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten a chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several nice cars? G: You didn't deserve it! > M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why > didn't you create a good play? G: What the heck do I have to do with your life? > M: ? G: Yes! Don't bother me! Forget about me, simply! Leave me alone, so that I can disappear from where I came from eventually!!! > M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less > painful? G: Blame your self! Your life is not my business. Actually I don't have any business at all, besides the ones you are attributing to me. > M: How horrible! G: Oh, no. I was pretty fine until you came, asking me stupid questions! M: God, what is time? G: What you want it to be. M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can You be recognized? G: I have no name! M: God, why did you create handicapped children? G: YOU create them, like you create me and everything else! M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world into a better place? G: When did I say I am everything? You are ascribing things to me I never said! M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the world a better place? G: Stop shaking me! I'm not a cocktail! M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot do anything anyway. G: Ask yourself, yes, finally! Let me be what I am! > M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? > What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? G: This shit are YOU! M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? > G: YOU ask Me, again, imbecile! > M: what is the meaning of all this? > G: Ask yourself! > > M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are > powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother to have a relation to something powerless? > > G: Exactly! > > M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all other than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. > G: Should I lie to you? > M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a > specified purpose. > G: Wrong, you know that yourself! > M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? > > G: Nothing ever happened! > M: Then you would also be me. > > G: Not ALSO, jester, I am YOU!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Nisargadatta , Mast Girl <mastteddy> wrote: > Hi, i am new to this group and fascinated with all you people talk about..replying to this as its really really good ..Thanks Anders..I am Masti .. Hi Masti, I am glad you liked it. This was a kind of a 'thoughtless' post. I just wrote what popped up in my mind. A kind of faked channeling. :-) /AL > > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote:At last, I have an appoinment with God. He/She/It will explain > everything to me. Finally! Thank heaven for that. > > Me: God, why did you create me? > > God: Because I wanted to see how one could really make a fool of > oneself, and that is why I created you. > > M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. > > G: > > M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even > though I sometimes make mistakes. > > G: > > M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten a > chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more > handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why > didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several > nice cars? > > G: If I would have made you smart you would have recognized that > there is no future and then there would not be any playing or acting > going on. > > M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why > didn't you create a good play? > > G: I'm just warming up. > > M: ? > > G: You need to suffer in order to see the good. If you never would > have suffered, then you would not be able to feel good. > > M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less > painful? > > G: You need to experience darkness in order to recognize light. I am > infinite Light and you need infinite darkness in order to recognize > Me. > > M: How horrible! > > G: Only in your mind. > > M: God, what is time? > > G: You don't know what time is because you do not recognize Me yet. > > M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can > You be recognized? > > G: I have no form, for I am every form. I have no fashion, for I am > every fashion. > > M: God, why did you create handicapped children? > > G: I do not create anything. I Am everything. > > M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world > into a better place? > > G: I Am everything. Every change is Me, but MySelf is unchangeable. > If I could change, then I could be destroyed. I cannot be destroyed. > I am the Unmoved Mover of the world. > > M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the > world a better place? > > G: I Move, but I do not change either MySelf or the world. The world > is MySelf and I am changeless. > > M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot > do anything anyway. > > G: My dear child, there never has been a Me able to do anything, nor > is there any you able to do anything. > > M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? > What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? > > G: What is a point? > > M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? > > G: What is purpose? > > M: Meaning, what is the meaning of all this? > > G: Meaning is found in the relation to Me. > > M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are > powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother to > have a relation to something powerless? > > G: I Am the answer to all questions. > > M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all other > than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. > > G: What is power? > > M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a > specified purpose. > > G: I Am this power, for I am all that is happening. > > M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? > > G: I do not make things happen, I Am all that happens. > > M: Then you would also be me. > > G: Yes. > > :-) > > /AL > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > Me: God, why did you create me? > > God: Why did YOU create me? > > > M: But I am not *that* much of a fool. > > G: Continue a little while the same way and, you will be soon a > complete fool > > > M: I am really an ordinary person being capable in many ways even > > though I sometimes make mistakes. > > G: You make more mistakes than anything and anyone else and you > believe you are something especial. > > > M: God, why didn't you make me smarter so that I could have gotten > a chance of getting the Nobel Prize, or why didn't you make me more > handsome so that I could become a movie star? Or, at least, why > didn't you make me rich so that I could buy a nice house and several > nice cars? > > G: You didn't deserve it! > > > M: But why have you made me suffer? If my life is just a play, why > > didn't you create a good play? > > G: What the heck do I have to do with your life? > > > M: ? > > G: Yes! Don't bother me! Forget about me, simply! Leave me alone, so > that I can disappear from where I came from eventually!!! > > > > M: But couldn't you have made my life only good, or at least less > > painful? > > > G: Blame your self! Your life is not my business. Actually I don't > have any business at all, besides the ones you are attributing to me. > > > > M: How horrible! > > > G: Oh, no. I was pretty fine until you came, asking me stupid > questions! > > M: God, what is time? > > G: What you want it to be. > > M: And how can I recognize You? By which form or apparent fashion can > You be recognized? > > G: I have no name! > > M: God, why did you create handicapped children? > > G: YOU create them, like you create me and everything else! > > M: But if you are everything, then why don't you change the world > into a better place? > > G: When did I say I am everything? You are ascribing things to me I > never said! > > M: If you are the Mover of the world, then why don't you make the > world a better place? > > G: Stop shaking me! I'm not a cocktail! > > > M: Ok, fine, then I will not ask You anything more because you cannot > do anything anyway. > > G: Ask yourself, yes, finally! Let me be what I am! > > > M: How frustrating! What is this load of shit you are telling me? > > What is the point of all this if nobody is able to do anything? > > G: This shit are YOU! > > M: Purpose, that's what I mean, what is the purpose of life? > > > G: YOU ask Me, again, imbecile! > > > M: what is the meaning of all this? > > > G: Ask yourself! > > > > M: But you are changeless, you said it YourSelf. Therefore you are > > powerless. You are incapable of doing anything. Why would I bother > to have a relation to something powerless? > > > > G: Exactly! > > > > M: It seems to me that I am not getting any clear answer at all > other than You telling me that you are in fact powerless. > > > G: Should I lie to you? > > > > M: Power is the capability to make things happen according to a > > specified purpose. > > > G: Wrong, you know that yourself! > > > > M: How can you make all things happen if you are powerless? > > > > G: Nothing ever happened! > > > > M: Then you would also be me. > > > > G: Not ALSO, jester, I am YOU!!! LOL! " Only God can say, I am " -- Meister Eckhart /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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