Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 danananda said: " thou art that (TAT TVAM ASI)... this was the message the maharaj continually expounded upon... which can also be confirmed in the mystical writings of the vedas & the upanishads... " the Buddha said something like this: " Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true. " Kind regards bd2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Nisargadatta , " billydid2 " <surinow@a...> wrote: > danananda said: > > " thou art that (TAT TVAM ASI)... this was the message the maharaj > continually expounded upon... which can also be confirmed in the > mystical writings of the vedas & the upanishads... " > > > the Buddha said something like this: > > " Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. > > Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. > > Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. > > Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. > > Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. > > Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true. " > > > Kind regards > bd2 And I say: believe there is such a thing as a future if you want to be a moron. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " billydid2 " <surinow@a...> wrote: > > danananda said: > > > > " thou art that (TAT TVAM ASI)... this was the message the maharaj > > continually expounded upon... which can also be confirmed in the > > mystical writings of the vedas & the upanishads... " > > > > > > the Buddha said something like this: > > > > " Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. > > > > Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. > > > > Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. > > > > Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. > > > > Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. > > > > Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true. " > > > > > > Kind regards > > bd2 > > And I say: believe there is such a thing as a future if you want to > be a moron. > > /AL I felt a bit of guilt after I had written this. This text was meant for me and anyone who want to look at their future in a different way. Anyone's future is really not my business, so forgive me if I made a clumsy remark. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Dear Anders, What you wrote does honor you. But let me add that also your own future is not your business. Werner Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billydid2 " <surinow@a...> > wrote: > > > danananda said: > > > > > > " thou art that (TAT TVAM ASI)... this was the message the maharaj > > > continually expounded upon... which can also be confirmed in the > > > mystical writings of the vedas & the upanishads... " > > > > > > > > > the Buddha said something like this: > > > > > > " Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. > > > > > > Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. > > > > > > Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. > > > > > > Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. > > > > > > Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. > > > > > > Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true. " > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > bd2 > > > > And I say: believe there is such a thing as a future if you want to > > be a moron. > > > > /AL > > I felt a bit of guilt after I had written this. This text was meant > for me and anyone who want to look at their future in a different > way. Anyone's future is really not my business, so forgive me if I > made a clumsy remark. > > /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Dear Anders, > > What you wrote does honor you. > > But let me add that also your own future is not your business. > > Werner Very good! I have been thinking that my future is who I am, but the images about myself handling different situations in the future are perhaps only impersonal thought-processes going in my mind. In these processes there is also a sense of a " me " being responsible, but maybe this is exactly the ego. Maybe the ego is not needed forever. There is something permanent about the ego, but how can thoughts about the future be permanent? The past, sure that may be permanent, but the future? Not even an Oracle can be in the future other than as images _about_ the future. To be honest, even the past cannot exist now other than as images _about_ the past. If the ego is permanent, it is only permanent in the form of images about past and future. As Nukunu says: the ego is a house made of play cards. /AL > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " billydid2 " <surinow@a...> > > wrote: > > > > danananda said: > > > > > > > > " thou art that (TAT TVAM ASI)... this was the message the > maharaj > > > > continually expounded upon... which can also be confirmed in > the > > > > mystical writings of the vedas & the upanishads... " > > > > > > > > > > > > the Buddha said something like this: > > > > > > > > " Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. > > > > > > > > Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. > > > > > > > > Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. > > > > > > > > Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. > > > > > > > > Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. > > > > > > > > Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > bd2 > > > > > > And I say: believe there is such a thing as a future if you want > to > > > be a moron. > > > > > > /AL > > > > I felt a bit of guilt after I had written this. This text was meant > > for me and anyone who want to look at their future in a different > > way. Anyone's future is really not my business, so forgive me if I > > made a clumsy remark. > > > > /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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