Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Hello friends, Whatever we do now is controlled between three swords hanging over it - they are what our ego wants us to do , what our mind tells us to do and what our nerves will let us do. These three make a crowd and get in the way all the time - your mind talks all the time, mostly negative talk which makes you frustrated, your ego wants to kill the thing while your nerves keep doubting whether you could even try such a murder. When you take action then it reflects the results of the mixed signals this crowd has been feeding you. When we fail sometimes, then we lose balance on all these three levels , the ego is then always fighting to regain control, the mind is trying to remember and bring back the previous lessons of past life and the nerves steadily sink u into self doubt and self criticism. How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? We need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, We must master non-doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Hi Masti, Lovely name. Do you know what does " Masti " mean?:-) - " Masti " <mastteddy <Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:35 PM Mastering Non Doing > Hello friends, > > Whatever we do now is controlled between three swords hanging over it - they are what our ego wants us to do , what our mind tells us to do and what our nerves will let us do. These three make a crowd and get in the way all the time - your mind talks all the time, mostly negative talk which makes you frustrated, your ego wants to kill the thing while your nerves keep doubting whether you could even try such a murder. -------------- The control is a sense of having controlled. What gets done in the moment, ................moment to moment to moment, is quite irrespective of the hoopla of the ego-mind-nerves. ------------- > > When you take action then it reflects the results of the mixed signals this crowd has been feeding you. ---------- You think it reflects. -------- > > When we fail sometimes, then we lose balance on all these three levels , the ego is then always fighting to regain control, the mind is trying to remember and bring back the previous lessons of past life and the nerves steadily sink u into self doubt and self criticism. --------- With the actioning in the moment,...............there night well be all that associated hoopla. Including the judgement,......... that the actioning in the moment was a failure. Or a success. ----------- > > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? ----------- To see that any sense of a " how " is only a sense of a question. Meanwhile Life happens, in the moment. Moment to moment to moment. ------------- > We need to get out of our own way. --------- :-) Lift yourself by your own bootstraps, eh? ----------- > To truly get out of your own way, We must master non-doing. ------------- Do you exist,.............. to master anything? Non-doing is not no-doing. So long the biological organism labeled " Masti " is " alive " ,................doing will continue in it, .............through it. In the moment. Moment to moment to moment. Till the organism,....... is reduced to a pile of ash. Or served to the agrarian microbes. Doing continues, ...............quite irrespective of the presence or absence of anybody wanting to master it. Or get enslaved by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Hi Masti -- What part or who is going to 'master nondoing?' It seems the choices are: ego mind nervous system. Or is there a separate you somewhere else in that skinbag that will master nondoing? And, Do you see the irony of mastering nondoing? It's impossible. Every movement Masti makes to master this is -- doing! Oops. :-) Joe Nisargadatta , Masti <mastteddy> wrote: > Hello friends, > > Whatever we do now is controlled between three swords hanging over it - they are what our ego wants us to do , what our mind tells us to do and what our nerves will let us do. These three make a crowd and get in the way all the time - your mind talks all the time, mostly negative talk which makes you frustrated, your ego wants to kill the thing while your nerves keep doubting whether you could even try such a murder. > > When you take action then it reflects the results of the mixed signals this crowd has been feeding you. > > When we fail sometimes, then we lose balance on all these three levels , the ego is then always fighting to regain control, the mind is trying to remember and bring back the previous lessons of past life and the nerves steadily sink u into self doubt and self criticism. > > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? We need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, We must master non-doing. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Nisargadatta , " josesiem " <josesiem> wrote: > Hi Masti -- > > What part or who is going to 'master nondoing?' > It seems the choices are: > ego > mind > nervous system. > > Or is there a separate you somewhere else in that skinbag that will > master nondoing? > > And, Do you see the irony of mastering nondoing? It's impossible. > Every movement Masti makes to master this is -- doing! > > Oops. > > :-) > > Joe Funny, Joe! This reminds me of an old game-show on U.S. television: " To Tell the Truth. " --- Will the real master of nondoing please stand up? (Or not.) Yours in Vera City, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Hello there, > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? We need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, We must master non-doing. Non-doing is not non-DOing. We cannot BUT DO. What is non-doing? Non-doing is not being dragged around by reactionary thoughts and mentation, not letting the mind dwell on anything at all, so that all is completely transparent. If the mind is transparent *wisdom* follows, wisdom in behaviour and choices. We must not stop or try to stop DOing but stop the mind dwelling or sticking and reacting to events and circumstances. This non-dwelling includes non-dwelling on the past present and future. In 'normal' people a puppet like body gets pushed and pulled to and from events, likes and dislikes, action and reaction, most are not aware of the effects of their thoughts upon their life. Like and dislike, hate and love are caused by a thinking ME, that pushes and pulls things toward and away from itself. Ideas and thoughts push and pull empty mind / bodies who think of themselves as being what they are not. Mind impacts mind and empty bodies move in the mind of 'God'. A body never moves itself, thought drags it around like a puppeteer. Consider the consequence of everyday thoughts and the reactions to others, concepts and thoughts and so on. No-DOing is completely transparent non-dwelling and non-sticking to thoughts, events and happenings, that sees clearly through reactionary thought and thought habits. Kind Regards, Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Dear Scott, Anders {:-)}, Jose, Dan, Thanks guys for your comments and I still maintain (despite Anders interesting mail) I learn a lot from just reading you guys for some days before i actually messaged myself.. Would definitely like to talk on the subjects you are speaking about and hope to make some value addition . here is what i want to add to the subject line I started and hope you guys think it makes sense...... Non-doing happens when you put your trust in a higher intelligence than your individual mind, a higher will than your individual will and a higher power than your individual power. Non doing is the opposite of Efforting. If you approach a difficult problem without struggle , ego emotions and nerves will try to undo you as everything you do is caught between what your ego wants you to do, what your mind tells you to do and what your nerves will let you do. These powerful forces made stronger by years of holding sway over you will inevitably try to take over but you have to resist the urge to resist them . That part is tricky and requires patience so it is all important that you access an intelligence higher than your own ..this is where faith comes in and you get out of your own way . When we were younger it was easier to get out of our own way. practicing non doing now will be innocence regained. Scott Andersen <sga_email wrote: Hello there, > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? We need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, We must master non-doing. Non-doing is not non-DOing. We cannot BUT DO. What is non-doing? Non-doing is not being dragged around by reactionary thoughts and mentation, not letting the mind dwell on anything at all, so that all is completely transparent. If the mind is transparent *wisdom* follows, wisdom in behaviour and choices. We must not stop or try to stop DOing but stop the mind dwelling or sticking and reacting to events and circumstances. This non-dwelling includes non-dwelling on the past present and future. In 'normal' people a puppet like body gets pushed and pulled to and from events, likes and dislikes, action and reaction, most are not aware of the effects of their thoughts upon their life. Like and dislike, hate and love are caused by a thinking ME, that pushes and pulls things toward and away from itself. Ideas and thoughts push and pull empty mind / bodies who think of themselves as being what they are not. Mind impacts mind and empty bodies move in the mind of 'God'. A body never moves itself, thought drags it around like a puppeteer. Consider the consequence of everyday thoughts and the reactions to others, concepts and thoughts and so on. No-DOing is completely transparent non-dwelling and non-sticking to thoughts, events and happenings, that sees clearly through reactionary thought and thought habits. Kind Regards, Scott. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 hi Sandeep , Thanks for your message..Yes I am fairly aware of what it means :-) sandeep <sandeepc wrote: Hi Masti, Lovely name. Do you know what does " Masti " mean?:-) - " Masti " <mastteddy <Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:35 PM Mastering Non Doing > Hello friends, > > Whatever we do now is controlled between three swords hanging over it - they are what our ego wants us to do , what our mind tells us to do and what our nerves will let us do. These three make a crowd and get in the way all the time - your mind talks all the time, mostly negative talk which makes you frustrated, your ego wants to kill the thing while your nerves keep doubting whether you could even try such a murder. -------------- The control is a sense of having controlled. What gets done in the moment, ................moment to moment to moment, is quite irrespective of the hoopla of the ego-mind-nerves. ------------- > > When you take action then it reflects the results of the mixed signals this crowd has been feeding you. ---------- You think it reflects. -------- > > When we fail sometimes, then we lose balance on all these three levels , the ego is then always fighting to regain control, the mind is trying to remember and bring back the previous lessons of past life and the nerves steadily sink u into self doubt and self criticism. --------- With the actioning in the moment,...............there night well be all that associated hoopla. Including the judgement,......... that the actioning in the moment was a failure. Or a success. ----------- > > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? ----------- To see that any sense of a " how " is only a sense of a question. Meanwhile Life happens, in the moment. Moment to moment to moment. ------------- > We need to get out of our own way. --------- :-) Lift yourself by your own bootstraps, eh? ----------- > To truly get out of your own way, We must master non-doing. ------------- Do you exist,.............. to master anything? Non-doing is not no-doing. So long the biological organism labeled " Masti " is " alive " ,................doing will continue in it, .............through it. In the moment. Moment to moment to moment. Till the organism,....... is reduced to a pile of ash. Or served to the agrarian microbes. Doing continues, ...............quite irrespective of the presence or absence of anybody wanting to master it. Or get enslaved by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 All that is purely real is that which is not thought about. Nisargadatta , " Scott Andersen " <sga_email> wrote: > > Hello there, > > > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? We > need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, We > must master non-doing. > > > Non-doing is not non-DOing. > > We cannot BUT DO. > > What is non-doing? > > Non-doing is not being dragged around by reactionary thoughts and > mentation, not letting the mind dwell on anything at all, so that all > is completely transparent. > > If the mind is transparent *wisdom* follows, wisdom in behaviour and > choices. > > We must not stop or try to stop DOing but stop the mind dwelling or > sticking and reacting to events and circumstances. This non- dwelling > includes non-dwelling on the past present and future. > > In 'normal' people a puppet like body gets pushed and pulled to and > from events, likes and dislikes, action and reaction, most are not > aware of the effects of their thoughts upon their life. > > Like and dislike, hate and love are caused by a thinking ME, > that pushes and pulls things toward and away from itself. > > Ideas and thoughts push and pull empty mind / bodies who think of > themselves as being what they are not. > Mind impacts mind and empty bodies move in the mind of 'God'. > > A body never moves itself, thought drags it around like a puppeteer. > Consider the consequence of everyday thoughts and the reactions to > others, concepts and thoughts and so on. > > No-DOing is completely transparent non-dwelling and non-sticking to > thoughts, events and happenings, that sees clearly through > reactionary thought and thought habits. > > Kind Regards, > > Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Nisargadatta , Masti <mastteddy> wrote: > Hello friends, > > Whatever we do now is controlled between three swords hanging over it - they are what our ego wants us to do , what our mind tells us to do and what our nerves will let us do. These three make a crowd and get in the way all the time - your mind talks all the time, mostly negative talk which makes you frustrated, your ego wants to kill the thing while your nerves keep doubting whether you could even try such a murder. > > When you take action then it reflects the results of the mixed signals this crowd has been feeding you. > > When we fail sometimes, then we lose balance on all these three levels , the ego is then always fighting to regain control, the mind is trying to remember and bring back the previous lessons of past life and the nerves steadily sink u into self doubt and self criticism. > > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? We need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, We must master non-doing. One way to do that is I believe to observe all that is going on in one's being as a whole thing, all of it, be it ego, mind or nerves, whatever, all of it as one happening going on observed as from above and from within. /AL > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Nisargadatta , Masti <mastteddy> wrote: > Dear Scott, Anders {:-)}, Jose, Dan, > > Thanks guys for your comments and I still maintain (despite Anders interesting mail) I learn a lot from just reading you guys for some days before i actually messaged myself.. Would definitely like to talk on the subjects you are speaking about and hope to make some value addition . here is what i want to add to the subject line I started and hope you guys think it makes sense...... > > Non-doing happens when you put your trust in a higher intelligence than your individual mind, a higher will than your individual will and a higher power than your individual power. > > Non doing is the opposite of Efforting. If you approach a difficult problem without struggle , ego emotions and nerves will try to undo you as everything you do is caught between what your ego wants you to do, what your mind tells you to do and what your nerves will let you do. These powerful forces made stronger by years of holding sway over you will inevitably try to take over but you have to resist the urge to resist them . > > That part is tricky and requires patience so it is all important that you access an intelligence higher than your own ..this is where faith comes in and you get out of your own way . > > When we were younger it was easier to get out of our own way. practicing non doing now will be innocence regained. I was thinking, maybe non-doing comes with the realization that there no doing going on at all anyway, that this what we call doing is just an idea that we are doing this or that, and that this doing in reality is nothing more than a false idea of being a doer. /AL > > Scott Andersen <sga_email> wrote: > > Hello there, > > > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? We > need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, We > must master non-doing. > > > Non-doing is not non-DOing. > > We cannot BUT DO. > > What is non-doing? > > Non-doing is not being dragged around by reactionary thoughts and > mentation, not letting the mind dwell on anything at all, so that all > is completely transparent. > > If the mind is transparent *wisdom* follows, wisdom in behaviour and > choices. > > We must not stop or try to stop DOing but stop the mind dwelling or > sticking and reacting to events and circumstances. This non- dwelling > includes non-dwelling on the past present and future. > > In 'normal' people a puppet like body gets pushed and pulled to and > from events, likes and dislikes, action and reaction, most are not > aware of the effects of their thoughts upon their life. > > Like and dislike, hate and love are caused by a thinking ME, > that pushes and pulls things toward and away from itself. > > Ideas and thoughts push and pull empty mind / bodies who think of > themselves as being what they are not. > Mind impacts mind and empty bodies move in the mind of 'God'. > > A body never moves itself, thought drags it around like a puppeteer. > Consider the consequence of everyday thoughts and the reactions to > others, concepts and thoughts and so on. > > No-DOing is completely transparent non-dwelling and non-sticking to > thoughts, events and happenings, that sees clearly through > reactionary thought and thought habits. > > Kind Regards, > > Scott. > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 The reality, as it feels to me is that Doing cannot stop. Whichever religion we follow, whatever lives we choose to live - in family (grihasta ashram) or outside family - karma is one certainity.. whether this karma is preordained by the world book keeper (God) or we are free to do as we please or we choose this doing is not clear to me as yet....one thing is sure Doing cannot stop and that is the reality. what we can do is choose to do it with innocence of a child ..to do all the good we can, by all the means we can , in all the ways we can , in all the places we can , at all the times we can , to all the people we can , at all the times we can and as long as we can...I know thats a lot of heavy stuff to say and really tough to do .. M anders_lindman <anders_lindman wrote: I was thinking, maybe non-doing comes with the realization that there no doing going on at all anyway, that this what we call doing is just an idea that we are doing this or that, and that this doing in reality is nothing more than a false idea of being a doer. /AL Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Our thoughts are about the real - unreal - imaginary - everything. we can however choose to remain pure of these goings on loquan2 <loquan2 wrote: All that is purely real is that which is not thought about. Nisargadatta , " Scott Andersen " <sga_email> wrote: > > Hello there, > > > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? We > need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, We > must master non-doing. > > > Non-doing is not non-DOing. > > We cannot BUT DO. > > What is non-doing? > > Non-doing is not being dragged around by reactionary thoughts and > mentation, not letting the mind dwell on anything at all, so that all > is completely transparent. > > If the mind is transparent *wisdom* follows, wisdom in behaviour and > choices. > > We must not stop or try to stop DOing but stop the mind dwelling or > sticking and reacting to events and circumstances. This non- dwelling > includes non-dwelling on the past present and future. > > In 'normal' people a puppet like body gets pushed and pulled to and > from events, likes and dislikes, action and reaction, most are not > aware of the effects of their thoughts upon their life. > > Like and dislike, hate and love are caused by a thinking ME, > that pushes and pulls things toward and away from itself. > > Ideas and thoughts push and pull empty mind / bodies who think of > themselves as being what they are not. > Mind impacts mind and empty bodies move in the mind of 'God'. > > A body never moves itself, thought drags it around like a puppeteer. > Consider the consequence of everyday thoughts and the reactions to > others, concepts and thoughts and so on. > > No-DOing is completely transparent non-dwelling and non-sticking to > thoughts, events and happenings, that sees clearly through > reactionary thought and thought habits. > > Kind Regards, > > Scott. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Nisargadatta , Masti <mastteddy> wrote: > > > The reality, as it feels to me is that Doing cannot stop. Whichever religion we follow, whatever lives we choose to live - in family (grihasta ashram) or outside family - karma is one certainity.. whether this karma is preordained by the world book keeper (God) or we are free to do as we please or we choose this doing is not clear to me as yet....one thing is sure Doing cannot stop and that is the reality. what we can do is choose to do it with innocence of a child ..to do all the good we can, by all the means we can , in all the ways we can , in all the places we can , at all the times we can , to all the people we can , at all the times we can and as long as we can...I know thats a lot of heavy stuff to say and really tough to do .. > M Maybe we can skip doing and focus on being. The Doing will perhaps take care of itself. Maybe pride (and shame/guilt) is the only thing that creates a 'me' as a separate doer. If we look at pride deep down we can see that what supports pride is not solid. Pride has a shaky foundation. /AL > > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote: > I was thinking, maybe non-doing comes with the realization that there > no doing going on at all anyway, that this what we call doing is just > an idea that we are doing this or that, and that this doing in > reality is nothing more than a false idea of being a doer. > > /AL > > > > > > Mail is new and improved - Check it out! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 anders_lindman <anders_lindman wrote: Nisargadatta , Maybe we can skip doing and focus on being. The Doing will perhaps take care of itself. Maybe pride (and shame/guilt) is the only thing that creates a 'me' as a separate doer. If we look at pride deep down we can see that what supports pride is not solid. Pride has a shaky foundation. /AL Dear Anders, As a Human " being " , the being comes naturally and doesnt need focus as such. Its the Doing which makes the " Human " worthwhile. The catch is to not let Pride (ego) , Guilt (mind), Shame (nerves as in memory of past failures) impact our doing..again we come back to how to get off the rollercoaster of ego,mind and nerves.. regards M New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 Nisargadatta , Masti <mastteddy> wrote: > > > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , > Maybe we can skip doing and focus on being. The Doing will perhaps take care of itself. Maybe pride (and shame/guilt) is the only thing that creates a 'me' as a separate doer. If we look at pride deep down we can see that what supports pride is not solid. Pride has a shaky > foundation. > > /AL > Dear Anders, > > As a Human " being " , the being comes naturally and doesnt need focus as such. Its the Doing which makes the " Human " worthwhile. The catch is to not let Pride (ego) , Guilt (mind), Shame (nerves as in memory of past failures) impact our doing..again we come back to how to get off the rollercoaster of ego,mind and nerves.. > > regards > > M Maybe doing and pride go together always? /AL > > > > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2004 Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 Unrestrained relinquishment is the only honest expression. Nisargadatta , Masti <mastteddy> wrote: > Our thoughts are about the real - unreal - imaginary - everything. we can however choose to remain pure of these goings on > > loquan2 <loquan2> wrote: > All that is purely real is that which is not thought about. > Nisargadatta , " Scott Andersen " > <sga_email> wrote: > > > > Hello there, > > > > > How do we overcome this crowd and get off this rollercoaster ? > We > > need to get out of our own way. To truly get out of your own way, > We > > must master non-doing. > > > > > > Non-doing is not non-DOing. > > > > We cannot BUT DO. > > > > What is non-doing? > > > > Non-doing is not being dragged around by reactionary thoughts and > > mentation, not letting the mind dwell on anything at all, so that > all > > is completely transparent. > > > > If the mind is transparent *wisdom* follows, wisdom in behaviour > and > > choices. > > > > We must not stop or try to stop DOing but stop the mind dwelling > or > > sticking and reacting to events and circumstances. This non- > dwelling > > includes non-dwelling on the past present and future. > > > > In 'normal' people a puppet like body gets pushed and pulled to > and > > from events, likes and dislikes, action and reaction, most are not > > aware of the effects of their thoughts upon their life. > > > > Like and dislike, hate and love are caused by a thinking ME, > > that pushes and pulls things toward and away from itself. > > > > Ideas and thoughts push and pull empty mind / bodies who think of > > themselves as being what they are not. > > Mind impacts mind and empty bodies move in the mind of 'God'. > > > > A body never moves itself, thought drags it around like a > puppeteer. > > Consider the consequence of everyday thoughts and the reactions to > > others, concepts and thoughts and so on. > > > > No-DOing is completely transparent non-dwelling and non-sticking > to > > thoughts, events and happenings, that sees clearly through > > reactionary thought and thought habits. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Scott. > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Hi there, > Unrestrained relinquishment is the only honest expression> Yes! Or.. Un-*stained* ( mind stained ) relinquishment Kind Regards, Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 yeah ..in any case a day will come when the risk it took to remain tight inside the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom .. regards M Scott Andersen <sga_email wrote: Hi there, > Unrestrained relinquishment is the only honest expression> Yes! Or.. Un-*stained* ( mind stained ) relinquishment Kind Regards, Scott. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Could reality get any more expensive? Unrestrained relinquishment - what higher price could be paid? Nisargadatta , " Scott Andersen " <sga_email> wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Unrestrained relinquishment is the only honest expression> > > > Yes! > > Or.. > > Un-*stained* ( mind stained ) relinquishment > > > Kind Regards, > > Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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