Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 {In the question 'Who am I?' what is that " I " that is being enquired into? And by whom?} The 'I' in the " Who am I? " ,.......... refers to the sense of the entity, the " me " . Which is the sense of the separated and thus the sense of individualistic,..... existence. Since the seeker is so convinced about " himself " or " herself " existing as a the separated " me-self, ..... ....the path of enquiry,..... in the form of the question 'Who am I? " is to trace that conviction and find its source. What is the basis of that conviction, is what is being explored. The enquiry is by nothing but that same sense of the entity,.... the " me " . For in the apperception of the notionality of the " me " , ......... .......consequentially, .............what can remain to be enquired, what remains to be traced, what exists to be explored, what convictions remain, the basis of which, is to be ascertained? {Should I go on asking 'Who am I?' without answering?} Asking is not a muttering of the words " Who am I " the whole day, like a chant. Dry throat, blinding headache, spouse walking out, boss throwing you out of your job, a sense of deep frustration,.... .... are the more likely consequences of such a day-long muttering. After the initial rush of all the answers, that the mind/entity provides, including those phrases picked up from books, cyber/physical Gurus,..... .....the enquiry deepens to a non-verbalized, non-articulated observing,......... of the sense of the question,........ and the answers that arise. The casting aside of the answer and the enquiry remaining with the question, is really to see the hoopla of the me-entity, in supplying the answers. Or getting diverted into something or the other,....... pertaining to the issues of day-to-day living. Or getting invested with the sensation/experience which may have arisen in the moment. Or getting diverted to the question " WHY has no experiences/sensations happened to ME, as yet? " " I MUST be doing it wrong " In the seeing of the hoopla of the me-entity, ........preening away that it is now on a profound esoteric spiritual path, laid down by the great Ramana,.... ....is the transcendence. For what you can see, observe, witness.............cannot be you, can it? The " created-observed " can never exist without you,.....you that you truly are. But you that you truly are, ..............do not need the " created-observed " ,.......in order to be. But you-that-you-truly-are, ................having created the imagery of the " created-observed " ,.............. have identified yourself with your-own-created imagery. The authoress of the novel, ........ getting a headache, .......every time the hero of her written novel,........ approaches the heroine of the same novel,........... for some nookey-pookey. In the dis-identification,................. you-that-you-truly-are,.......re-discover,.......de-veil.....de-hypnotize,......\ .....yourself. {If there is no " me " in the first place, why should I do this enquiry?} If there is no " me " in the first place and this has been apperceived,.........who is asking the question " why should I do this enquiry " ? Who is it, that gets pissed off, with what Life serves? Who is it, that feels invalidated, un-supported, ignored, lonely? Who is it, that seeks an explanation of the sensation/experience of the moment? Who is it, that believes it is confused and concludes this path of enquiry, is one more of the same crap? --------- {OK. I can see my craftiness in that question. You don't have to rub it in. Can you say something about this I-that-I-truly-AM?} :-) Who wants to know? Everything we see is changing, always changing isn't it?. ---- {Yes} Then there must be something which records the change as a " particular change " , isn't it? {Yes} Which itself has to be " unchanging " (to use a term). {Why should it be unchanging?} The movement of a running train, is only inferred,......... by the stationary trees and towns and fields,..... passing by. If you moved into outer space, and if the speed of the train was the same as the speed at which the earth rotates, not all the Gods in Hades could convince you of the movement of the train. {OK. Incredible that it might sound, I got that.} Excellent. Now would not that " unchanging " ,.......... be the basis and source of all the imagery which is constant change? What is that, ...............when even the conceptualizing,........... as the " unchanging " has been cast aside? {I have no fucking clue} Excellent. Rather than what is the clue, ..............or whether this clue is the correct one and that one is worthless,....... .......be with the question " who is it,..... that believes it has no fucking clue? " To whom,....... is the puzzle to be solved,..............a puzzling " puzzle " ? For whom,......... is the goose still in the bottle? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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