Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or you might find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having control over everything is the same as having control over nothing. Having partial control equals struggle. Only the release into effortless being can bring true freedom. You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and disbelief. Free...................your.....................mind! :-) /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or you might > find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having control over > everything is the same as having control over nothing. Having partial > control equals struggle. Only the release into effortless being can > bring true freedom. > > You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and disbelief. How can you let it go, if it's there? Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or you might > > find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having control over > > everything is the same as having control over nothing. Having > partial > > control equals struggle. Only the release into effortless being can > > bring true freedom. > > > > You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and disbelief. > > > How can you let it go, if it's there? > > Len Ah...you sir, are not the shadow of a being......that......you think you are. Proclaim yourself liberated into the abyss of infinite control.....and....be........done.....withit! ;-) /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or you might > > > find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having control over > > > everything is the same as having control over nothing. Having > > partial > > > control equals struggle. Only the release into effortless being > can > > > bring true freedom. > > > > > > You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and disbelief. > > > > > > How can you let it go, if it's there? > > > > Len > > Ah...you sir, are not the shadow of a being......that......you think > you are. Proclaim yourself liberated into the abyss of infinite > control.....and....be........done.....withit! ;-) > > /AL I have no idea what I am, but what's there, is there, until it isn't, and no proclamation can change anything about it. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > <lissbon2002> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or you > might > > > > find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having control over > > > > everything is the same as having control over nothing. Having > > > partial > > > > control equals struggle. Only the release into effortless being > > can > > > > bring true freedom. > > > > > > > > You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and disbelief. > > > > > > > > > How can you let it go, if it's there? > > > > > > Len > > > > Ah...you sir, are not the shadow of a being......that......you > think > > you are. Proclaim yourself liberated into the abyss of infinite > > control.....and....be........done.....withit! ;-) > > > > /AL > > > I have no idea what I am, but what's there, is there, until it isn't, > and no proclamation can change anything about it. > > Len Ha! You have no control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > <lissbon2002> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or you > > might > > > > > find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having control > over > > > > > everything is the same as having control over nothing. Having > > > > partial > > > > > control equals struggle. Only the release into effortless > being > > > can > > > > > bring true freedom. > > > > > > > > > > You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and disbelief. > > > > > > > > > > > > How can you let it go, if it's there? > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > Ah...you sir, are not the shadow of a being......that......you > > think > > > you are. Proclaim yourself liberated into the abyss of infinite > > > control.....and....be........done.....withit! ;-) > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > I have no idea what I am, but what's there, is there, until it > isn't, > > and no proclamation can change anything about it. > > > > Len > Ha! You have no control. Exactly. So how can I let anything go? Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > <lissbon2002> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > > <lissbon2002> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or you > > > might > > > > > > find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having control > > over > > > > > > everything is the same as having control over nothing. > Having > > > > > partial > > > > > > control equals struggle. Only the release into effortless > > being > > > > can > > > > > > bring true freedom. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and > disbelief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can you let it go, if it's there? > > > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > Ah...you sir, are not the shadow of a being......that......you > > > think > > > > you are. Proclaim yourself liberated into the abyss of infinite > > > > control.....and....be........done.....withit! ;-) > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > I have no idea what I am, but what's there, is there, until it > > isn't, > > > and no proclamation can change anything about it. > > > > > > Len > > > > Ha! You have no control. > > > Exactly. So how can I let anything go? > > Len Fear, doubt, and disbelief can only be there when there is partial control. With total control, what is there to fear? No control equals total control. You say that you have no control, but if that was true, that would mean you have total control, and with such power, what is there to fear? The fact is that you believe you have partial control, that you are a separate fragment having to cope with the 'external' world. This leads inevitably to an inner conflict.....which results in the very opposite of peace. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > <lissbon2002> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > > > <lissbon2002> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or > you > > > > might > > > > > > > find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having control > > > over > > > > > > > everything is the same as having control over nothing. > > Having > > > > > > partial > > > > > > > control equals struggle. Only the release into effortless > > > being > > > > > can > > > > > > > bring true freedom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and > > disbelief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can you let it go, if it's there? > > > > > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > Ah...you sir, are not the shadow of a > being......that......you > > > > think > > > > > you are. Proclaim yourself liberated into the abyss of > infinite > > > > > control.....and....be........done.....withit! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea what I am, but what's there, is there, until it > > > isn't, > > > > and no proclamation can change anything about it. > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > Ha! You have no control. > > > > > > Exactly. So how can I let anything go? > > > > Len > > Fear, doubt, and disbelief can only be there when there is partial > control. With total control, what is there to fear? No control equals > total control. You say that you have no control, but if that was > true, that would mean you have total control, and with such power, > what is there to fear? The fact is that you believe you have partial > control, that you are a separate fragment having to cope with > the 'external' world. This leads inevitably to an inner > conflict.....which results in the very opposite of peace. > > /AL The idea of letting go in order to attain peace, total control or whatever, is a part of the conflict. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > <lissbon2002> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > > <lissbon2002> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > > > > <lissbon2002> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either you have control over everything, or nothing, or > > you > > > > > might > > > > > > > > find yourself locked in an inner struggle. Having > control > > > > over > > > > > > > > everything is the same as having control over nothing. > > > Having > > > > > > > partial > > > > > > > > control equals struggle. Only the release into > effortless > > > > being > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > bring true freedom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to let it all go.........fear, doubt and > > > disbelief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can you let it go, if it's there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah...you sir, are not the shadow of a > > being......that......you > > > > > think > > > > > > you are. Proclaim yourself liberated into the abyss of > > infinite > > > > > > control.....and....be........done.....withit! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea what I am, but what's there, is there, until > it > > > > isn't, > > > > > and no proclamation can change anything about it. > > > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > Ha! You have no control. > > > > > > > > > Exactly. So how can I let anything go? > > > > > > Len > > > > Fear, doubt, and disbelief can only be there when there is partial > > control. With total control, what is there to fear? No control > equals > > total control. You say that you have no control, but if that was > > true, that would mean you have total control, and with such power, > > what is there to fear? The fact is that you believe you have > partial > > control, that you are a separate fragment having to cope with > > the 'external' world. This leads inevitably to an inner > > conflict.....which results in the very opposite of peace. > > > > /AL > > > The idea of letting go in order to attain peace, total control or > whatever, is a part of the conflict. > > Len Yes, that's the trick with: " You have to let it all go - fear, doubt and disbelief " . When there is total control, then there is nothing to let go of. So this is more of a pointer to the realization that there is no one to let go of anything. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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