Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 spend their days................catching shadows of minnows.........with shadows of nets........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > spend their days................catching shadows of minnows.........with shadows of nets........ Toombaru!! You already became the shadow? You said you understood something lately. Tell me toombaru, can I call you toom? What is that that I feel bad if someone feels bad? Am I not a ghost or shadow, or illusion! Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > spend their days................catching shadows of > minnows.........with shadows of nets........ > > Toombaru!! > > You already became the shadow? You said you understood something > lately. Tell me toombaru, can I call you toom? > What is that that I feel bad if someone feels bad? fear Am I not a ghost > or shadow, or illusion! > > Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 >> > You already became the shadow? You said you understood something lately. Tell me toombaru, can I call you toom? > > What is that that I feel bad if someone feels bad? > > > fear? Please toom what do you mean? Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > >> > You already became the shadow? You said you understood > something lately. Tell me toombaru, can I call you toom? > > > What is that that I feel bad if someone feels bad? > > > > > > fear? > > Please toom what do you mean? > > > Alberto, The identified entity is...........by definition.....self-centered. It is incapable of sympathetic intent. Whenever it " sympathizes " with " another " ....it is merely personalizing the problem.... ......which can be viewed only in terms of the viewer's perspective. For the " self " every " other " thing is ranked on a scale of positive or negative based on that things perceived value to....or threat against..... the entity's personal survival. Fear is the lubricant the keeps the machine grinding along. This does not mean that the entity is bad or evil...... Its just beautifully wired to survive.......... Its really a wonderful...................little machine. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> > wrote: > > >> > You already became the shadow? You said you understood > > something lately. Tell me toombaru, can I call you toom? > > > > What is that that I feel bad if someone feels bad? > > > > > > > > > fear? > > > > Please toom what do you mean? > > > > > > Alberto, > > > The identified entity is...........by definition.....self-centered. > > It is incapable of sympathetic intent. > > Whenever it " sympathizes " with " another " ....it is merely personalizing the > problem.... > .....which can be viewed only in terms of the viewer's perspective. > > For the " self " every " other " thing is ranked on a scale of positive or negative > based on that things perceived value to....or threat against..... the entity's > personal survival. > > Fear is the lubricant the keeps the machine grinding along. > > > > > > This does not mean that the entity is bad or evil...... > > Its just beautifully wired to survive.......... > > Its really a wonderful...................little machine. > > > toombaru Hi toombaru, self, other, by definition self-centered, :0) true. but are you a definition?? Are you what people tell you you are or you are what you are? Is love too a tought? (don't start the thinking process here) Do you love your family or you think you love them? I am sure that you truly love them. You wrote it you self!!! :0)) So the only thing you are doing is listening to your Ego. The self constructed stuff. And you enter in your bubble. Some are nice very nice bubble. but it is a bubble! To destroy this bubble you need to see the bubble. then if you have the courage to destroy it you do it. I mean the bubble of the ego! The false " us " the I think that I think that I know that I know!! stuff! What are you toombaru without your toughts. Your a dead man. And this is why the thinking process wants to continue to live, to survive. But you are not your toughts, you are the Self. And yes there is a process to awaken. You all know that. Nisargadatta took 3 years, Ramana, it was almost instantly etc. Thinking I am not thinking " is " thinking! Don't think. Just as the Zen stuff. Non-Thinking State! and Yes it is a state!! Respectfully, Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " > > <ilikezen2004> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > You already became the shadow? You said you understood > > > > something lately. Tell me toombaru, can I call you toom? > > > > > > What is that that I feel bad if someone feels bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear? > > > > > > > > Please toom what do you mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberto, > > > > > > > > > The identified entity is...........by definition.....self-centered. > > > > > > It is incapable of sympathetic intent. > > > > > > Whenever it " sympathizes " with " another " ....it is merely > > personalizing the > > > problem.... > > > .....which can be viewed only in terms of the viewer's > > perspective. > > > > > > For the " self " every " other " thing is ranked on a scale of > > positive or negative > > > based on that things perceived value to....or threat against..... > > the entity's > > > personal survival. > > > > > > Fear is the lubricant the keeps the machine grinding along. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not mean that the entity is bad or evil...... > > > > > > Its just beautifully wired to survive.......... > > > > > > Its really a wonderful...................little machine. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Hi toombaru, > > self, other, by definition self-centered, :0) true. but are you a > > definition?? > > > > > Yes........I am defined.....by every thing other then my self. > > > > Are you what people tell you you are or you are what > > you are? Is love too a tought? > > > > > The structure and currency of identity is thought.........out of thought the > conceptual identified-entity......emerges......wiggles....for a while ....in the hot > desert sun............and then........depleated in its struggles....simply dis- appears.........never > to be seen again. > > .........and yes...for the identified-entity..... " love " is a thought.........its a nice > thought.......but it is only a thought. > > ......what else could it be? > > > > (don't start the thinking process > > > > " I " am nothing but the thinking.............. > > > > > here) Do you love your family or you think you love them? I am sure > > that you truly love them. You wrote it you self!!! :0)) > > > > Identification......loves.....its self........there is nothing but self in the bubble..........and > nothing outside of the bubble........... > > > > > So the only > > thing you are doing is listening to your Ego. > > > > > > There is nothing else...in the entire universe...that speaks...... > > > > > The self constructed > > stuff. And you enter in your bubble. Some are nice very nice bubble. > > but it is a bubble! To destroy this bubble you need to see the > > bubble. then if you have the courage to destroy it you do it. I mean > > the bubble of the ego! > > > > > If the " ego " could really see what it is up to.........it wouldn't be all that enthusiastic to > destroy its self.........:-) > > > > > The false " us " the I think that I think that > > I know that I know!! stuff! What are you toombaru without your > > toughts. > > > > no-thing > > > Your a dead man. And this is why the thinking process wants > > to continue to live, to survive. But you are not your toughts, you > > are the Self. > > > > The whole concept of little self.......BIG SELF............is only a more subtle dualism..... > > > > > > And yes there is a process to awaken. No.....there isn't. You all know that. > > Nisargadatta took 3 years, Ramana, it was almost instantly etc. > > Thinking I am not thinking " is " thinking! Don't think. > > Just as the Zen stuff. Non-Thinking State! and Yes it is a state!! > > > > Respectfully, > > Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 ............and writing shadowy emails. --- toombaru2004 <cptc wrote: > spend their days................catching shadows of > minnows.........with shadows of nets........ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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