Ok! I think I'm starting to understand how you guys work!

[Guest guest]

Ok! I think I'm starting to understand how you guys work!

Ok! hey! I just awoke!! man!! hi hi! I'm bubble man!! While I was

waiting reading you guys. respectfully of course waiting for the

moment for you to let me talk. You were all the time waiting for me

to speak. Donny said it to me in one of her postings: just tell your

truth, and I replied: What do you mean? your truth? Continuing the

conversation!!! Oups! What she wanted to say is just tell me your

truth. Alberto's truth. Ohh! That is why Pete, your are thinking I

am hiding, playing with you guys! I see?? oups!

 

That is not the case!!! at all !!!!! I feel like a Donkey!! :X)

 

I participated to become more familiar with how it works with the

computer and I tried to understand you understanding of the way.

Don't want to add something that the person already knows!

 

I red you guys and commented some of the postings. I understand now.

Sorry guys!

 

1st I don't say something to someone that he already know? Because

he already knows it. I tried to tell you things and you didn't

listen. I won't knock you because you don't want to hear about my

vision of the way!!! Come on!!! You know what I mean. So I continued

to read posting and once and a while I replied.

 

2ndly I don't know what is the understanding of all of you guys???

So It is for me very very difficult to speak freely. That is all!

I already tried. but you didn't listen what I said. or just a bit!

 

My friends my english is poor, I am mastering the ?%?$#$#@ computer

and my love of the way is such that I wanted to discuss it with you

guys! Is as simple as that!! Don't forget I am naive!! just a bit!

 

I am a french canadian.( physicaly in Quebec) French canadian don't

understand, english Canadians, probably english canadian don't

easyly understand Americans so on!!!

 

Please be patient with me!!!

 

That said if someone asked me what is my understanding of the way I

will be more that happy to say my truth. I'm sorry Donny. I dind't

know! :0)

 

I won't tell what you don't want to hear! I'm not like that!:0)

 

Alberto,

[Guest guest]

Alberto!

 

There is no problem, just go on posting as you already did. Whatever

you feel, whatever comes to your mind and whenever you like! Some

people here try to be clever, others try to be honest, others try to

show something, others try to find something. Many are possibly only

reading and not posting at all, so we dont even meet them. Others are

only posting but not reading. So what? Dont get confused by this, it

is hard to get into a real dialog here. For example, I dont have

always time to reply, because I have to dance. Haha!

 

Another thing, I live in Greece, here it is a quarter to midnight. I

will go to sleep in a while. And during my sleep you guys are going on

posting and when I wake up I get all the postings via email.

 

I think everybody likes you here around :-)). Your english is no

problem, I understand everything and it sounds very nice. If I would

not understand something I would ask. But I think I understand you

even if I dont understand, you know what I mean!!!

 

BTW, I have a little program called " babylon " and whenever I see those

strange words of toombarus (for example) - that I never have heard in

my life - I hit the word with the mouse and there is the German

translation! Great little program. Therefor I know now what a " minnow "

is: it is a fish that I dont know! Haha!!! But I wonder if anybody can

live from the shadows of unknown fishes... I am afraid the family of

the fisherman will simply starve... I am not making fun of Toombarus,

but I want to provoke him, because he never shows up behind his

words... at least not for me. But maybe he never will... I cannot look

into his eyes... such is the internet... you can talk and still hide.

 

No problem, everybody as he likes. Look, he is always saying what we

already know, so you can do it too!!

 

You are doing great here... believe me, there are no hidden rules. It

just goes its way...

 

Lots of love to you

Stefan

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...>

wrote:

> Alberto!

>

> There is no problem, just go on posting as you already did.

Whatever

> you feel, whatever comes to your mind and whenever you like! Some

> people here try to be clever, others try to be honest, others try

to

> show something, others try to find something. Many are possibly

only

> reading and not posting at all, so we dont even meet them. Others

are

> only posting but not reading. So what? Dont get confused by this,

it

> is hard to get into a real dialog here. For example, I dont have

> always time to reply, because I have to dance. Haha!

>

> Another thing, I live in Greece, here it is a quarter to midnight.

I

> will go to sleep in a while. And during my sleep you guys are

going on

> posting and when I wake up I get all the postings via email.

>

> I think everybody likes you here around :-)). Your english is no

> problem, I understand everything and it sounds very nice. If I

would

> not understand something I would ask. But I think I understand you

> even if I dont understand, you know what I mean!!!

>

> BTW, I have a little program called " babylon " and whenever I see

those

> strange words of toombarus (for example) - that I never have heard

in

> my life - I hit the word with the mouse and there is the German

> translation! Great little program. Therefor I know now what

a " minnow "

> is: it is a fish that I dont know! Haha!!! But I wonder if anybody

can

> live from the shadows of unknown fishes... I am afraid the family

of

> the fisherman will simply starve... I am not making fun of

Toombarus,

> but I want to provoke him, because he never shows up behind his

> words... at least not for me. But maybe he never will... I cannot

look

> into his eyes... such is the internet... you can talk and still

hide.

>

> No problem, everybody as he likes. Look, he is always saying what

we

> already know, so you can do it too!!

>

> You are doing great here... believe me, there are no hidden rules.

It

> just goes its way...

>

> Lots of love to you

> Stefan

 

-------------------

 

Hey hi my loves,

I'm new on the board, as you know, but Stefan speaks with my same

mind on this issue. I enjoy everyone's ideas, and I guess I have a

bit of a thick head, so I need a very heavy stick. I suggest you

all head out and pick up a very sturdy one,,,my head is very hard.

I learned long ago that I seem to learn best when people just come

out and say whatever they want, but I don't mean that anyone should

do what I want or need. I embrace your need to do/be/express

whatever way you want. I might have to ask questions to understand,

but I'm prepared to do that.

 

 

I'm from Alberta, Canada, and I've heard Quebec is a wonderful

city. How can I not like the French Canadians. It would be as

futile as hating my left arm. I don't agree with some of the

choices people make, but that doesn't have much to do with being

French, do you think? It's o.k. for me if you can't speak English

very well. I'll continue to ask if I don't understand. As I say,

it's really hard for me to convey ideas too, especially writing on a

forum.

 

I can't remember who on the board recently offered up the pearls

that said, " they wonder if we really do want enlightenment " sorry,

I can't remember exactly how it was phrazed. But this same thought

has crossed my mind many times in my own experience. When I read it

my heart leaped a mile. I'm so grateful to hear someone else echoing

my words on this board, and I so feel love for you for that.

I know in my head I'm not all alone, but in the world it's not easy

to share ideas with any ole' person you meet on the street. And here

I see a place to open up. Maybe loneliness is an illusion, but it

feels very real when there's no one to talk to about things. Thank

you all so very much.

 

And, thanks to whoever posted the analogy (the other day) of bubbles

in the bubble bath rising out of the water and disappearing into

nothing. Advaita is in everything isn't it. I'll never look at

bubble baths the same way.

 

Now I'm going to take Stefan's good idea and go dance.

 

much love,

 

~*~ Donny ~*~

 

------------------

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey hi my loves,

> I'm new on the board, as you know, but Stefan speaks with my same

> mind on this issue. I enjoy everyone's ideas, and I guess I have a

> bit of a thick head, so I need a very heavy stick. I suggest you

> all head out and pick up a very sturdy one,,,my head is very hard.

> I learned long ago that I seem to learn best when people just come

> out and say whatever they want, but I don't mean that anyone should

> do what I want or need. I embrace your need to do/be/express

> whatever way you want. I might have to ask questions to understand,

> but I'm prepared to do that.

>

>

> I'm from Alberta, Canada, and I've heard Quebec is a wonderful

> city. How can I not like the French Canadians. It would be as

> futile as hating my left arm. I don't agree with some of the

> choices people make, but that doesn't have much to do with being

> French, do you think? It's o.k. for me if you can't speak English

> very well. I'll continue to ask if I don't understand. As I say,

> it's really hard for me to convey ideas too, especially writing on a

> forum.

>

> I can't remember who on the board recently offered up the pearls

> that said, " they wonder if we really do want enlightenment " sorry,

> I can't remember exactly how it was phrazed. But this same thought

> has crossed my mind many times in my own experience. When I read it

> my heart leaped a mile. I'm so grateful to hear someone else echoing

> my words on this board, and I so feel love for you for that.

> I know in my head I'm not all alone, but in the world it's not easy

> to share ideas with any ole' person you meet on the street. And here

> I see a place to open up. Maybe loneliness is an illusion, but it

> feels very real when there's no one to talk to about things. Thank

> you all so very much.

>

> And, thanks to whoever posted the analogy (the other day) of bubbles

> in the bubble bath rising out of the water and disappearing into

> nothing. Advaita is in everything isn't it. I'll never look at

> bubble baths the same way.

>

> Now I'm going to take Stefan's good idea and go dance.

>

> much love,

>

> ~*~ Donny ~*~

>

> ------------------

 

 

 

 

how refreshing

[Guest guest]

>

> Lots of love to you

> Stefan

 

Thanks to you Greek man!! :0))

You guys got great philosophers!!!

There is a movie that is in theaters here and it is about Troy.

Helen of troy. You know Odysseus, achilles, the horse of troy?

So Achilles is according to the legend one, if not, the greatest

Hero, greatest warrior of all time. So if you don<t mine I will call

you Achilles :0)) Will have a lot of fun!

 

Thanks for your reply!

I feel better now! smiless

Alberto,

[Guest guest]

but i thought he was german..staying in greece...

 

alberto..dont wield the stick if im wrong:-(

 

rgds,

devendra

 

 

--- ilikezen2004 <ilikezen2004 wrote:

 

> >

> > Lots of love to you

> > Stefan

>

> Thanks to you Greek man!! :0))

> You guys got great philosophers!!!

> There is a movie that is in theaters here and it is

> about Troy.

> Helen of troy. You know Odysseus, achilles, the

> horse of troy?

> So Achilles is according to the legend one, if not,

> the greatest

> Hero, greatest warrior of all time. So if you don<t

> mine I will call

> you Achilles :0)) Will have a lot of fun!

>

> Thanks for your reply!

> I feel better now! smiless

> Alberto,

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Devendra,

 

Look above:

Achilles said: Another thing, I live in Greece, here it is a quarter

to midnight!

 

As spiritual lesson:

Whatever you may think you are Devendra Reality remains unchanged.

You can be a buddha or a slave. You need to read the postings

properly (learning) and you need to become better (to adapt yourself

to the situation). Do you really think that all the Realisers know

everything every little aspect and details of life? They don't most

of them quit worldly stuff to stay in Samadhi! Don't get bound by

ignorance!

 

Alberto,

 

 

Nisargadatta , Devendra Vyas

<coolasafool> wrote:

> but i thought he was german..staying in greece...

>

> alberto..dont wield the stick if im wrong:-(

>

> rgds,

> devendra

>

>

> --- ilikezen2004 <ilikezen2004> wrote:

>

> > >

> > > Lots of love to you

> > > Stefan

> >

> > Thanks to you Greek man!! :0))

> > You guys got great philosophers!!!

> > There is a movie that is in theaters here and it is

> > about Troy.

> > Helen of troy. You know Odysseus, achilles, the

> > horse of troy?

> > So Achilles is according to the legend one, if not,

> > the greatest

> > Hero, greatest warrior of all time. So if you don<t

> > mine I will call

> > you Achilles :0)) Will have a lot of fun!

> >

> > Thanks for your reply!

> > I feel better now! smiless

> > Alberto,

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Masti,

 

this is such a beautiful dialog. I am speechless and tears come to my

eyes. Those are rare moments... thank you for sharing this with us.

I dont know... do you want me to comment on what your friend said to

you?

 

All the best

Stefan

 

Nisargadatta , Masti <mastteddy> wrote:

> here goes..do tell me if it made sense to post this here..would love

>if you saw and replied Stefan??..

>

>: when did you begin your inquiry?

>: are you hindu, non-dualist, ???

>Renu: i am hindu

>Renu: i dont know what a non dualist is ..at this point i dont care

>: One without a second

>Renu: I see God in people..every person that i meet ..i try to meet

>god in every person with total attention without any distractions

>: have you seen yourself in me

>: the God that you see in all

>Renu: i see you as you..

>Renu: just like me walking

>: is seeing himself through your eyes

>Renu: i met you ..this is a meeting which deserved some of my

>inputs..i gave my inputs..and will start walking when it seems my job

>is done

>: is there anyone or anything that you take with you as you walk

>Renu: yes..all of it

>: exactly

>Renu: the sum of parts is greater than the whole..the ME

>: then there is never a walking away from the moment and the

>perfection of functioning in this moment as it is

>Renu: i think u mis read

>Renu: i dont walk away

>Renu: i just walk

>: nice

>: understood

>: then our paths have crossed.

>: we have sipped tea together....conversed....shared food of the

>heart....and each is blessed

>Renu: yes..thats right

[Guest guest]

Hi Masti,

 

you are saying in that dialog that you try to meet god in every

person. This is beautiful. Godliness (I like this word more than

" God " ) is in everything. So you see Godliness in others, but in

reality you are seeing yourself. Because it is the same Godliness that

is in you or in everything else. It is not different in different

beings. It is always the same light, reflected. This is what your

friend wanted to express, I suppose.

 

When you look at others you are seeing yourself. And when you meet a

friend there is the chance to look on yourself through his eyes. This

is a rare chance. In the end you can find that you both are one. I

think Alberto can explain this better than me! I am only talking about

what I " feel " how it is...

 

Your friend said:

 

>then there is never a walking away from the moment and the

>perfection of functioning in this moment as it is

 

I think he wanted to say, that from the standpoint of non-duality

there is no walking away. If you are looking at the whole existence

beyond time and space... where should you walk? There is no away --

there is no way -- no past nor future -- only presence.

 

Does this make sense to you? I guess you knew it all!!!

 

Greetings

Stefan

 

Nisargadatta , Masti <mastteddy> wrote:

> Thank you Stefan!!! You know something, your long mail assuring

Alberto that he was, in fact, in a place where he belonged as much

as everybody else inspired me to post this exchange to you.

>

> Will be grateful if you could comment on what my friend said to me

and vice versa. Also please dont hesitate to point out a mistake,

which I may have made in the exchange as partnering otherwise strong

people in their moments of stress is an acquired expertise. I dont

have it, just spoke to him from the heart...so yes would appreciate

your point of view..plz share it

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...>

wrote:

> Hi Masti,

>

> you are saying in that dialog that you try to meet god in every

> person. This is beautiful. Godliness (I like this word more than

> " God " ) is in everything. So you see Godliness in others, but in

> reality you are seeing yourself. Because it is the same Godliness

that

> is in you or in everything else. It is not different in different

> beings. It is always the same light, reflected. This is what your

> friend wanted to express, I suppose.

>

> When you look at others you are seeing yourself. And when you meet

a

> friend there is the chance to look on yourself through his eyes.

This

> is a rare chance. In the end you can find that you both are one. I

> think Alberto can explain this better than me! I am only talking

about

> what I " feel " how it is...

>

> Your friend said:

>

> >then there is never a walking away from the moment and the

> >perfection of functioning in this moment as it is

>

> I think he wanted to say, that from the standpoint of non-duality

> there is no walking away. If you are looking at the whole existence

> beyond time and space... where should you walk? There is no away --

> there is no way -- no past nor future -- only presence.

>

> Does this make sense to you? I guess you knew it all!!!

>

> Greetings

> Stefan

>

For sure you are now Achiles!! Young punk!! :0)

 

Alberto,