Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Ok! You might think I'm not polite if I wait for someone to ask me to speak! Ok. As Donny said:0) just say it !! I will! Do the walking not the talking! You will never ever arrive to Realisation with your thoughts. Because thoughts are not the truth! it is as simple as that. Truth Is beyond thoughts! SO there is a difference, a huge one, between someone who thinks reality and one who sees beyond thoughts. Most of you think the reality. You guys think all the time. Thinks and think the thinking process is itself the Ego, the Identity " I " . As long as you think you are the Ego. When the thinking process stops gradualy it is called Savikalpa samadhi and when the thinking process is master it is called Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Without effort. and there are other Samadhi there! So if you can't stop the thinking process. It worth absolutly nothing, nothing, nothing. I mean it is cool, ok. You are just dreaming about the ice cream you will never eat it. Because you are thinking the ice cream!!! Go in Samadhi you will see. What I mean!! Love, Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > > Ok! You might think I'm not polite if I wait for someone to ask me > to speak! Ok. As Donny said:0) just say it !! I will! > > Do the walking not the talking! > > You will never ever arrive to Realisation with your thoughts. > Because thoughts are not the truth! it is as simple as that. Truth > Is beyond thoughts! SO there is a difference, a huge one, between > someone who thinks reality and one who sees beyond thoughts. Most of > you think the reality. You guys think all the time. Thinks and think > the thinking process is itself the Ego, the Identity " I " . > > As long as you think you are the Ego. > > When the thinking process stops gradualy it is called Savikalpa > samadhi and when the thinking process is master it is called > Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Without effort. and there are other Samadhi > there! So if you can't stop the thinking process. It worth absolutly > nothing, nothing, nothing. I mean it is cool, ok. You are just > dreaming about the ice cream you will never eat it. Because you are > thinking the ice cream!!! Go in Samadhi you will see. What I mean!! > > Love, > Alberto, ----------------------- hi Alberto, Thanks very much for words. Thanks for your stick. aaaah, and when you come out of the wilderness you go into a flow place. or not. it's up to you. May I ask you, did you think the thoughts when you typed them, or did they flow from your fingertips in unconsciousness (no thought involved). Were you able to stop the thinking process when you typed your message? You don't " think " that you can do both at the same time, be spontaneous with/in flow and still think? Maybe that's part of my experiment. To see what " I " can do. Thanks in advance for your response. much love ~*~ Donny -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > > Ok! You might think I'm not polite if I wait for someone to ask me > to speak! Ok. As Donny said:0) just say it !! I will! > > Do the walking not the talking! > > You will never ever arrive to Realisation with your thoughts. > Because thoughts are not the truth! it is as simple as that. Truth > Is beyond thoughts! SO there is a difference, a huge one, between > someone who thinks reality and one who sees beyond thoughts. Most of > you think the reality. You guys think all the time. Thinks and think > the thinking process is itself the Ego, the Identity " I " . > > As long as you think you are the Ego. > > When the thinking process stops gradualy it is called Savikalpa > samadhi and when the thinking process is master it is called > Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Without effort. and there are other Samadhi > there! So if you can't stop the thinking process. It worth absolutly > nothing, nothing, nothing. I mean it is cool, ok. You are just > dreaming about the ice cream you will never eat it. Because you are > thinking the ice cream!!! Go in Samadhi you will see. What I mean!! > > Love, > Alberto, Good! Nice, clear, direct. You have the right message. So, the only thing you need to learn is to make it sharp like an arrowhead...... And only one smiling face. Great! :F) Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " > <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > > > > > Ok! You might think I'm not polite if I wait for someone to ask me > > to speak! Ok. As Donny said:0) just say it !! I will! > > > > Do the walking not the talking! > > > > You will never ever arrive to Realisation with your thoughts. > > Because thoughts are not the truth! it is as simple as that. Truth > > Is beyond thoughts! SO there is a difference, a huge one, between > > someone who thinks reality and one who sees beyond thoughts. Most > of > > you think the reality. You guys think all the time. Thinks and > think > > the thinking process is itself the Ego, the Identity " I " . > > > > As long as you think you are the Ego. > > > > When the thinking process stops gradualy it is called Savikalpa > > samadhi and when the thinking process is master it is called > > Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Without effort. and there are other Samadhi > > there! So if you can't stop the thinking process. It worth > absolutly > > nothing, nothing, nothing. I mean it is cool, ok. You are just > > dreaming about the ice cream you will never eat it. Because you > are > > thinking the ice cream!!! Go in Samadhi you will see. What I mean!! > > > > Love, > > Alberto, > > ----------------------- > > hi Alberto, > Thanks very much for words. Thanks for your stick. > > aaaah, and when you come out of the wilderness you go into a flow > place. or not. it's up to you. > > May I ask you, did you think the thoughts when you typed them, or > did they flow from your fingertips in unconsciousness (no thought > involved). > > Were you able to stop the thinking process when you typed your > message? You don't " think " that you can do both at the same time, > be spontaneous with/in flow and still think? Maybe that's part of > my experiment. To see what " I " can do. > > Thanks in advance for your response. > > much love > > ~*~ Donny ************************************** Hi Donny, Well in my case. Yes I can stop thoughts at will. I worked like a maniac to achive that but I did it! When I write to you guys I may think or may not think! It Doesn't matter for me anymore. It become natural. I don't think, more than I think. And if I think, well it is like watchings my thoughts like clouds in the sky! I see all the sky, and it is beautiful! Thoughts are just as my legs. When I need them. I used them. They are absolutely not the truth. There is silence... peace and acceptence of reality. Etc. Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Thanks Pete!! I'll do my best! Smile ;0) Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 > ************************************** > > Hi Donny, Well in my case. Yes I can stop thoughts at will. I worked > like a maniac to achive that but I did it! When I write to you guys > I may think or may not think! It Doesn't matter for me anymore. It > become natural. I don't think, more than I think. And if I think, > well it is like watchings my thoughts like clouds in the sky! I see > all the sky, and it is beautiful! Thoughts are just as my legs. When > I need them. I used them. They are absolutely not the truth. There > is silence... peace and acceptence of reality. Etc. > > Alberto, Exactly, same here.You're a quick study! Very direct.....and.... not a single... smile. ))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: >Good! Nice, clear, direct. You have the right message. >So, the only thing you need to learn is to make it sharp like >an arrowhead...... And only one smiling face. Great! :F) What Pete... this was not sharp enough for you? How comes? :-) Stefan > Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " > <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > > > > > Ok! You might think I'm not polite if I wait for someone to ask me > > to speak! Ok. As Donny said:0) just say it !! I will! > > > > Do the walking not the talking! > > > > You will never ever arrive to Realisation with your thoughts. > > Because thoughts are not the truth! it is as simple as that. Truth > > Is beyond thoughts! SO there is a difference, a huge one, between > > someone who thinks reality and one who sees beyond thoughts. Most > of > > you think the reality. You guys think all the time. Thinks and > think > > the thinking process is itself the Ego, the Identity " I " . > > > > As long as you think you are the Ego. > > > > When the thinking process stops gradualy it is called Savikalpa > > samadhi and when the thinking process is master it is called > > Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Without effort. and there are other Samadhi > > there! So if you can't stop the thinking process. It worth > absolutly > > nothing, nothing, nothing. I mean it is cool, ok. You are just > > dreaming about the ice cream you will never eat it. Because you are > > thinking the ice cream!!! Go in Samadhi you will see. What I mean!! > > > > Love, > > Alberto, > > Good! Nice, clear, direct. You have the right message. > So, the only thing you need to learn is to make it sharp like > an arrowhead...... And only one smiling face. Great! :F) > > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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