Ramakrishna!!

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Hi all, I'm suffring a lot, at this very moment. I'm completly lost

in God. And he is killing me physicly with his presence, Samadhi. I

can't stand it anymore (truly). I asked God to show me more and more

until the final awakening Nirvana. But now I see that this light is

too powerfoul to be sustained, at least by me.

 

 

Please understand that I can't stand it anymore. I have to clean my

laundry, clean the dishes for Christ sake! Meaning for the love of

Christ. Every single thing is God!! I neeeedddd to escape it!!

but " I Am That. So I can't!! :0(

 

UNIVERSAL TEACHINGS OF SRI RAMAKRISHNA

 

SEE GOD IN ALL

I have now come to a stage of realization in which I see that God is

walking in every human form and manifesting Himself alike through

the sage and the sinner, the virtuous and the vicious. Therefore

when I meet different people I say to myself, " God in the form of

the saint, God in the form of the sinner, God in the form of the

righteous, God in the form of the unrighteous. "

 

GOD IS WITHIN YOU

Do you know what I see? I see Him as all. Men and other creatures

appear to me only as hollow forms, moving their heads and hands and

feet, but within is the Lord Himself.

 

PERSEVERE IN YOUR SEARCH FOR GOD

There are pearls in the deep sea, but one must hazard all to find

them. If diving once does not bring you pearls, you need not

therefore conclude that the sea is without them. Dive again and

again. You are sure to be rewarded in the end. So is it with the

finding of the Lord in this world. If your first attempt proves

fruitless, do not lose heart. Persevere in your efforts. You are

sure to realize Him at last.

 

TRUST COMPLETELY IN GOD

What are you to do when you are placed in the world? Give up

everything to Him, resign yourself to Him, and there will be no more

trouble for you. Then you will come to know that everything is done

by His will.

 

LOVE OF GOD IS ESSENTIAL

Unalloyed love of God is the essential thing. All else is unreal.

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Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 "

<ilikezen2004> wrote:

>

> Hi all, I'm suffring a lot, at this very moment. I'm completly

lost

> in God. And he is killing me physicly with his presence, Samadhi.

I

> can't stand it anymore (truly). I asked God to show me more and

more

> until the final awakening Nirvana. But now I see that this light

is

> too powerfoul to be sustained, at least by me.

>

>

> Please understand that I can't stand it anymore. I have to clean

my

> laundry, clean the dishes for Christ sake! Meaning for the love of

> Christ. Every single thing is God!! I neeeedddd to escape it!!

> but " I Am That. So I can't!! :0(

>

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Stefan my love, You just want to feel love. That emptiness from

within is hurting you. Anyone who feeds you will be your best

friend. Such is the way of us humans,,,and of course,,,stray cats

and dogs.

If you can get you're love met outside of yourself, then great.

How can you get your love bucket filled? What choices could be

made for that to take place within your experience? Find out what it

is and then get pro-active and do it.

 

in caring and sharing,

 

~*~ Donny

 

 

Alberto my beloved.

 

I do love you very much? Do you know it? I don't really use a stick

of any kind - zen or otherwise. I speak what comes to me and if

people get hit on the head then they are hitting themselves on their

head with their own stick.

 

Why do you need to escape " it " .

oh, I know what you mean by " it "

 

the farther one goes into that light, the harder it is to come back,

and the harder it can be to live in the human world of laundry and

bathing.

 

We're here because we're experiencing the results, the karma, of

that which we created and put in motion a long time ago. The cause

and effect.

 

If you can swing you're pendulum a little more into a specifically

directed emotional place it might make your journey a little less

unbearable. Right now your at the mercy of random emotion, because

you run from it, deny it, while you chant that it is illusion and

all is no-thing in the sadhana state.

 

See, it comes back to you to claim it, and all the running won't do

that. Because by saying something is " illusion " you are in fact

denying that the illusion itself is a part of YOU, your creation,

therefore it is " something " . Aah, the divine dichotomy strikes.

When You truly *know* it is illusion, then you understand how to

work with it. Then you can direct it at will and channel what you

want consciously. You have made emotion and thought into almost a

dirty thing, a swear word if you will. Now it comes back to you so

you can understand the nature behind it. When we become so attached

to focusing on the mantra that illusion isn't real, and therefore I

must rid myself of it like a nasty plague, then we must also

understand that absolutely nothing exists anywhere, then there is

really nothing to rid yourself of. Only to understand more

consciously. And then you get to direct and channel the " illusion "

in a way that gives you your desired results.

 

By denying and running from it you have already subconsciously

labeled the human experience as " bad " not so good, or at least not

as good as being in the ultimate " no thing " sadhana state. You are

attached to a result. You are attached to detachment. So, the

mysery comes back, the pain and depression of mundane tasks so it

can be owned and embraced as part of itself. Why? because you've

spent 15 years trying to run from it, cut it off, kill it, deny it.

 

Instead of feeling the feelings attached to your current focus of

attention,

which is the running from thought into no-thought, (this creates the

unhappiness you're experiencing now) you may want to experiment with

feeling the feelings attached to flowing in the human experience at

this moment. ...and at this moment....

feel the feeling " " underneathe " " the body now at this moment... and

now again, the feeling " " underneathe " " the human experience. Focus

on feeling the ***love*** that brought you here to it. Focus on

feeling the love underneathe the moments of laundry. But to do that

you really have to claim the illusion as part of who you are. Part

of a choice that isn't bad, but good. By saying this illusion

should be denied it is basically saying that the choice that created

it (you and original energy) is bad. By doing so you are now

creating a split which is why you still view human functions as a

separate negative thing. The negative feeling belies the fact. You

haven't got conscious creation becasue you wish to deny " it " the

negative and run from it " the altered " because there is a truth

somewhere that " it " is an illusion and therefore not real.

 

Do not confuse " not real and Illusion " with non-duality. In seeking

towards non duality people push away the very part of the thing that

wasn't duel in the first place,,,therefore the weird mind bender

then follows,,, how could it be illusion if is non dual in the first

place. Something can still be illusion and still be non-duality.

When one understands that illusion is NOT duality at all, that's

when consciousness can have an oppotunity to come more into play.

 

Then, rather then running from part of you that is illusion, you see

that it was you all along, just waiting to be accepted. Then you

direct things consciously through understanding and your choice

follows the understanding.

 

Instead of tapping into the down/blue feeling, tap into the up/joy

feeling. that requires an embracing of all that you are... that

includes the illusion AND the non-illusion. It is ALL you. Why run

from it like it's a diseace. It's this lack of embracing that is

causing your dis-ease **dis-EASE**. {Not being at ease.}

 

Your almost there sweetheart, your almost there.

 

But can you put down the boat you were travelling in and pick up

another?

A man wanted to get to the other side of the river and explore the

fields beyond. He got in his boat. The river was rougher then he

thought and it took him quite awhile to get to the shore. The boat

had been his life saver, the only thing keeping him afloat on the

water, the only thing keeping him from drowning. He got to the

shore but couldn't let go of his boat. He stayed in the boat, but

the waves slapped at the boat and started to draw it back into the

river.

He was married to/attached to the boat and couldn't let go of it.

He was left to float aimlessly in the river dying of starvation.

Interesting how the very thing that helped him on one leg of his

journey became the very albatross around his neck that finally

killed him on the other leg of the journey.

 

The morrow of the story is........ what are you married to and why?

What are you attached to? An attachment to a particular method of

detachment can be a very difficult thing to detect.

Let go of the boat, and find another method of transportation. You

can't use a boat to cross dry land. Your method has served you, now

let go of it and open to something different...

or not...

it's your choice, and so are the results of your choice.

 

 

in deep caring and sharing,

 

~*~ Donny

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Hi Donny,

 

I am not sure if you are talking to me since what you had quoted above

was from Alberto.

 

You are talking about love. I am so full of love you could not

believe, I am love. This kind of love that you are talking about has

been replaced by another love, much more valuable, a long time ago. It

is not emptiness which causes my fear. I am as full as one can be.

Friends... everybody is my friend whom I meet along the way. I dont

have or need a best friend but God. Myself I have surrendered to a

master, many years ago. Only one who did this can understand what this

means.

 

Alberto is not what you " think " he is, Devendra is not what you

" think " he is, you are not what you " think " you are. The helplessness

behind my words is, that there are no words to express " this " . Nobody

can take somebody on his boat. Because there is no river, there is no

boat, nothing to cross. Look after yourself, you are a beautiful

person. Dont talk to Alberto or Devendra, they are not here. Dont get

cought in speculations about others. You have so much more to give.

And dont expect the mind from others to be consistent... how can mind

be consistent? Its very nature is unconsistency.

 

We would not be here without Nisargadatta. If you want to understand

what he meant with " I am " you have to listen to him. " I am that " was

just the title of his most famous book. Forget " that " . Forget the

others. The only, ...only! ... thing that you can call " relatively

consistent " is that every morning when you wake up there starts a

sense of " I am " ... " I exist " . Everything else which comes next is

already pure madness. To stay with this " I am " is the way of master

Nisargadatta. Stay with " I am " and become open like a house with open

windows. Become like a tree, taking everything as it comes: wind,

heat, rain, snow... and still stay there as a tree, graceful. Nothing

more is needed.

 

Love

Stefan

 

" The me and the mine may be small, or may explode and embrace the

universe, but love remains. "

Nis

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Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider "

<laughterx8@h...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 "

> <ilikezen2004> wrote:

> >

> > Hi all, I'm suffring a lot, at this very moment. I'm completly

> lost

> > in God. And he is killing me physicly with his presence,

Samadhi.

> I

> > can't stand it anymore (truly). I asked God to show me more and

> more

> > until the final awakening Nirvana. But now I see that this light

> is

> > too powerfoul to be sustained, at least by me.

> >

> >

> > Please understand that I can't stand it anymore. I have to clean

> my

> > laundry, clean the dishes for Christ sake! Meaning for the love

of

> > Christ. Every single thing is God!! I neeeedddd to escape it!!

> > but " I Am That. So I can't!! :0(

> > **********************************************************

 

Helloooo Donny! :0)

 

Yes I am leaving soon,

 

It is a good try Donny, but can I tell you something, don't think

too much you may loose love of God or God's love sense!

 

You may realise God trought Bhakti Yoga. Love of God.

 

Vivekananda wrote:

 

Love is beyond time and space, it is absolute.

Vivekananda,

 

So, Vivekananda's lovers what about that? :0)

 

My master died for mankind! Jesus is the name of my lord and my God.

His Holy spirit showed me everything! Taught me what I know and I'm

soo pleased. Then what else? So what! Sat-chit-ananda. Love-bliss

and perfect communion with truth and Reality. He is the master of

masters. He is the supreme! God of gods! I kneel before he!

 

Is that clear enough Donny! Love God, love Jesus and receive his

holy spirit!

 

Alberto,

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...>

wrote:

> Hi Donny,

>

> I am not sure if you are talking to me since what you had quoted

above

> was from Alberto.

>

> You are talking about love. I am so full of love you could not

> believe, I am love. This kind of love that you are talking about

has

> been replaced by another love, much more valuable, a long time

ago. It

> is not emptiness which causes my fear. I am as full as one can be.

> Friends... everybody is my friend whom I meet along the way. I dont

> have or need a best friend but God. Myself I have surrendered to a

> master, many years ago. Only one who did this can understand what

this

> means.

>

> Alberto is not what you " think " he is, Devendra is not what you

> " think " he is, you are not what you " think " you are. The

helplessness

> behind my words is, that there are no words to express " this " .

Nobody

> can take somebody on his boat. Because there is no river, there is

no

> boat, nothing to cross. Look after yourself, you are a beautiful

> person. Dont talk to Alberto or Devendra, they are not here. Dont

get

> cought in speculations about others. You have so much more to give.

> And dont expect the mind from others to be consistent... how can

mind

> be consistent? Its very nature is unconsistency.

>

> We would not be here without Nisargadatta. If you want to

understand

> what he meant with " I am " you have to listen to him. " I am that "

was

> just the title of his most famous book. Forget " that " . Forget the

> others. The only, ...only! ... thing that you can call " relatively

> consistent " is that every morning when you wake up there starts a

> sense of " I am " ... " I exist " . Everything else which comes next is

> already pure madness. To stay with this " I am " is the way of master

> Nisargadatta. Stay with " I am " and become open like a house with

open

> windows. Become like a tree, taking everything as it comes: wind,

> heat, rain, snow... and still stay there as a tree, graceful.

Nothing

> more is needed.

>

> Love

> Stefan

>

> " The me and the mine may be small, or may explode and embrace the

> universe, but love remains. "

> Nis

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Love is beyond time and space, it is absolute.

Vivekananda

 

Hi Achileas,

 

You are using your sword! you are truly using it! ) Soon Stefan,

you will overcome bla bla bla, overcome thinking and even while

thinking you will understand better and better. You cannot clean

something with a dirty clothes. The dirty clothes are the thinking

process. Get rid of it! It stinks!! ha ha ha! :0)

 

People in general don't want to do so because they " think " they

can't or even get scared. You need to understand what you are not ,

Neti, Neti not this not that! to finaly embrase that you are all.

The Spirit in you, Jesus Christ, God, lives for ever and ever!

everything " is " because " That " The holy Spirit lives. A leg is not a

leg. It is flesh, bones etc. energy, etc. so when it is seen you

comes back again to the bones, the leg and you are reading this

posting, Understood!

 

If you were only thinking you absolutely could not get out of you

thoughts! But you can because you are not the thoughts. Your being

is much more complex! it is as simple as that! You are also

emotions. Emotions are not thoughts in the sense of thoughts! You

don't think Love. You fall in Love. (even if you say it is a

thought, it is not the same level of the regular thinking process)

You cannot say Ok! tomorrow I will fall in Love!) this is not true

Love, this is one manipulating ones self!

 

So bloodiest warrior! :0) The ignorance is fading away, hein!

And you are there and always will! hi hi hi!

 

Surrender every thing to God, Jesus. You will see! He is there with

you.

 

Alberto,

Leaving soon! :0)

Love,

 

P.S. Achileas, don't think the Pete man has not understood a thing

(not meaning that you thinks that) just for the fun of the talk! he

understood quit a lot, but he sometimes forget where he has come

from and argues with you guys.

 

Pete; Love!!

 

Alberto,

Crazy monkey!

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Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 "

<ilikezen2004> wrote:

 

 

> > Helloooo Donny! :0)

>

> Yes I am leaving soon,

>

> It is a good try Donny, but can I tell you something, don't think

> too much you may loose love of God or God's love sense!

>

> You may realise God trought Bhakti Yoga. Love of God.

>

> Vivekananda wrote:

>

> Love is beyond time and space, it is absolute.

> Vivekananda,

>

> So, Vivekananda's lovers what about that? :0)

>

> My master died for mankind! Jesus is the name of my lord and my

God.

> His Holy spirit showed me everything! Taught me what I know and

I'm

> soo pleased. Then what else? So what! Sat-chit-ananda. Love-bliss

> and perfect communion with truth and Reality. He is the master of

> masters. He is the supreme! God of gods! I kneel before he!

>

> Is that clear enough Donny! Love God, love Jesus and receive his

> holy spirit!

>

> Alberto,

 

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Alberto my love.

 

:oD (that's my big nose AND my big mouth. lol - lots of laughs.

 

;-) (wink)

 

 

 

there's nothing to receive... I had it all along. And I decide what

degrees and depths to experience.

 

Isn't that the message behind non-duality?

 

how could I lose love of God or god's love sense - if all is " god "

and All is " Love " . If it's absolute?

That's just a lot of fear talking. Love has many faces. Even

sadness is love, sacrifice can be love. Fear; like love, can have

many purposes, functions and faces. Of course whatever we assign

to it. There in lies the key.

 

I'm compiling a response to you which will go into more detail, but

I'm having trouble finding the words to describe, so it's so much

detail, turning out to be very, very, very long, and very, very

repetitive because the more I write the harder it is to fit it into

coherent words. (can I also use the excuse that I'm a woman? Lol.)

So, I'll see if it's finished maybe tomorrow or the next day.

 

 

 

Would you do me a favor. Would you be able to get(download or

something) the song by Gordon Lightfoot, called " anything for

love " off his East of Midnight Album. Sometimes pawn shops

might

carry it - it's an old recording. I'd like you to hear the song

because it goes hand in hand with my message, if I ever get it

finished.

 

Thanks

 

 

Devendra didn't show up for his wedding. I see you're sticking

around for yours. We can't have a wedding without the groom!

 

: ^ )

 

 

in caring and sharing,

 

~*~ Donny

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