Jean Klien - Ending of hope

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May interest some here, Reply to Eric on another forum

 

 

>Sorta stopped or restricting my posting on

>these bill-boards, makes no sense to disturb or

>stimulate the noisy audience and the many gurus out

>there. The need to say or understand something is

>simply another form of noise posited on the ever

>present " peace " .

 

>If you mean the UG Krishnamurti, sure

>there is convincing similarity among the

>dudes in which the " break-through " occured

>(not confused with nervous " break-down).

 

>These dudes unanimously declare that all practices

>spiritual or otherwise eventually leads to the

>insight that such practices simply don't work when

>followed to the very end, earnestly.

 

>It must become very clear that self-effort only seek

>it's own self interest in order to re-inforce the

>false or fictional self-image. " You " doing this or

>that maintains and perpetuates the " you " . It is your

>defensive kung-fu that you're always doing...

 

>SEEING that results in the stoppage of all the

>fear-remedy distractive or yogic therapies of trying

>to change your state. You remain fed up with your

>game, your act....being a false carbon-copy,

>impersonating others, clinging to borrowed

second->hand knowledge, what others say or what you

read,

>misidentifying with the false self-image,

>misrepresenting yourself....You remain in what

>Kierkegaard calls agony, in fear, in utter

>disappointment or frustration.

 

>If you have the balls, the nerves to endure this

>crisis, the whole obscurity game is completely SEEN

>and thrown out from the system...without a " you "

>rejecting it. In this maturity (that is un-caused), a

>breakthrough...a fresh and wider perspective or what

>has been called a " rebirth " occurs. " What-is " is

>simply the case and allowed to be just as it is.

 

>-dave

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- ericlonline <ericlonline wrote:

 

>

> Hey Dave & All,

>

> >

> > Here's Jean Klein at his very best.(as far as I'm

> > concerned).

>

> <snip>

>

> All of what you posted sounded like Krishnamurti.

> Was there a relationship between the 2?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> PEACE

>

> E

 

From 'Open to the Unknown', talks in Delphi that Jean

held in Greece in 1990.

 

Jean Klein: I assume there is sincerity in this

meeting, the sincerity to really look and to discover

what life is. The fact that you are sincere means that

you have already searched in many directions. The

longing to search for life in many directions, to

discover your true being, comes from an inner urge to

find the truth, the inner urge to discover yourself.

If you really seriously search in all directions you

become exhausted and speaking psychologically,

bankrupt. You feel completely helpless: you are in

despair; you no longer know where to turn; all streets

are dead ends; your thinking can no longer help. This

crisis is the most important moment in your life. You

come into a state of complete not-knowing. You have no

hope or expectations anymore. It is a rare occasion in

which the thinking is confronted with its limitations,

and because it is useless as such, the thinking gives

up, then you are open, open for nothing, only open for

openness. This openness is the threshold of your true

nature. Remain there in not knowing and you will see

what happens.