Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 It's hard to keep track of your speed... and your location at the same time..... Are you al right? Are you losing your grip? Is it dawning on you that behind the mask of your so call wisdom ........ is............... FEAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > It's hard to keep track of your speed... and your location at the same > time..... > > Are you al right? Are you losing your grip? Is it dawning on you that > behind the mask of your so call wisdom ........ is............... FEAR Oh Pete........you were thinking that there was something here more then a mask........some.....one ...behind the mask some kind of something...that has a choice about what he writes....... someone that is fearful.....a fearfulness...behind the mask....something real...and frightened..........behind the mask.........well that's a common mistake........I can see how you could come to that conclusion.......it certainly seems.....logical........I too.... am adept at drawing sweeping conclusions on very small amounts of information......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 [Yahweh Elohim] brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. Genesis 2:191 ~ ~ ~ " But, " he said, " you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live. " Exodus 33:20 ~ ~ ~ .. . . there the LORD confused the language of the whole world. Genesis 11:9 ~ ~ ~ Words are trivial Pleasures remain So does the pain Words are meaningless And forgettable --Depeche Mode, " Enjoy the Silence " ~ ~ ~ I have spoke with the tongue of angels I have held the hand of the devil It was warm in the night I was cold as a stone --U2, " I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For " ~ ~ ~ " Nothing in this life that could be imagined or received and understood by the intellect can be a proximate means of union with God. In our natural way of knowing, the intellect can grasp an object only through the forms and phantasms of things perceived by the bodily senses " " ntellectual comprehension of God through heavenly or earthly creatures is impossible; there is no proportion of likeness " (Ibid. 174). Therefore, if humans are to understand God and his ways, however imperfectly, he " must speak doctrine to them from his own mouth, and not theirs, and in a tongue other than theirs " (Ibid. 216). --St. John of the Cross rgds Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Hola Pete..soy yo!..Marme recuerdas? Que es miedo? Es algo instintivo..de un estado natural? O es un invento de la mente? o es lo mismo? ---------- That it is fear? Is something instintivo.. a natural state? Or it is an invention of the mind? or it is the same? excuse ingles..es translated!! Pedsie2 wrote: It's hard to keep track of your speed... and your location at the same time..... Are you al right? Are you losing your grip? Is it dawning on you that behind the mask of your so call wisdom ........ is............... FEAR Dulcinea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > It's hard to keep track of your speed... and your location at the same > > time..... > > > > Are you al right? Are you losing your grip? Is it dawning on you that > > behind the mask of your so call wisdom ........ is............... FEAR > > > > > Oh Pete........you were thinking that there was something here more then a mask........some.....one ...behind the mask some kind of something...that has a choice about what he writes....... > someone that is fearful.....a fearfulness...behind the mask....something real...and frightened..........behind the mask.........well that's a common mistake........I can see how you could come to that conclusion.......it certainly seems.....logical........I too.... am adept at drawing sweeping conclusions on very small amounts of information......... P: Just a possibility to look at. Six messages one after the other, even if they are very short, seems the work of a mind which is trying really... hard... to prove something... but... to whom?... if you really believe, what you try to prove you believe....To whom, indeed? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > It's hard to keep track of your speed... and your location at the > same > > > time..... > > > > > > Are you al right? Are you losing your grip? Is it dawning on you > that > > > behind the mask of your so call wisdom ........ > is............... FEAR > > > > > > > > > > Oh Pete........you were thinking that there was something here more > then a mask........some.....one ...behind the mask some kind of > something...that has a choice about what he writes....... > > someone that is fearful.....a fearfulness...behind the > mask....something real...and frightened..........behind the > mask.........well that's a common mistake........I can see how you > could come to that conclusion.......it certainly > seems.....logical........I too.... am adept at drawing sweeping > conclusions on very small amounts of information......... > > P: Just a possibility to look at. t: Well.........I will try to get a good look at my-self....try to see what motivates all this activity.... Where do you suggest I start? Six messages one after the other, > even if they are very short, seems the work of a mind which is trying > really... hard... to prove something... but... to whom?... if > you really believe, what you try to prove you believe....To whom, > indeed? > > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > It's hard to keep track of your speed... and your location at the > > same > > > > time..... > > > > > > > > Are you al right? Are you losing your grip? Is it dawning on you > > that > > > > behind the mask of your so call wisdom ........ > > is............... FEAR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh Pete........you were thinking that there was something here more > > then a mask........some.....one ...behind the mask some kind of > > something...that has a choice about what he writes....... > > > someone that is fearful.....a fearfulness...behind the > > mask....something real...and frightened..........behind the > > mask.........well that's a common mistake........I can see how you > > could come to that conclusion.......it certainly > > seems.....logical........I too.... am adept at drawing sweeping > > conclusions on very small amounts of information......... > > > > P: Just a possibility to look at. > > t: Well.........I will try to get a good look at my-self....try to see what motivates all this activity.... > > Where do you suggest I start? > > Do you think........if I got rid of the fear.............everything would be ok?.................yeah.......I gotta get rid of all that fear! I'm gonna work on that.......... > > Six messages one after the other, > > even if they are very short, seems the work of a mind which is trying > > really... hard... to prove something... but... to whom?... if > > you really believe, what you try to prove you believe....To whom, > > indeed? > > > > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 > > > > t: Well.........I will try to get a good look at my-self....try to see what motivates all this activity.... > > > > Where do you suggest I start? P:The most productive way to inquire into activities, or beliefs, is to ask what the benefit is? why doing this, thinking this, makes me feel good? Usually behind every belief is a fear, or a desire that it either soothes or fulfills. > > > > > > Do you think........if I got rid of the fear.............everything would be ok?.................yeah.......I gotta get rid of all that fear! P: It could be productive if you admit the possibility that you're stuck in conceptual understanding. The way you repeat that simple refrain " I don't exist, nothing exist, nothing to get. " sounds kind of frantic, as if you are trying very...HARD.... to make it a reality. And that would be the mother of all absurdities... trying to make non-existence.....real. Ask " yourself " If you really believe what you write.... would there be a point in writing it...And for WHOM? Pete > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Nisargadatta , Dulcinea <didulcinea> wrote: > > Hola Pete..soy yo!..Marme recuerdas? > > > Que es miedo? Es algo instintivo..de un estado natural? O es un invento de la mente? > o es lo mismo? > ---------- > That it is fear? Is something instintivo.. a natural state? Or it is an invention of the mind? or it is the same? > excuse ingles..es translated!! > > message have been removed] Hola Mar, Si te recuerdo. Como estas. Cuentame de tu vida. El miedo es ambos, como instinto es saludable, como invento muy malo. Yes, I remember you. How are you. Tell me about your life. Fear is both. When an instinct is good. When a fabrication of the mind, very harmful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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