Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 The ultimate understanding is that there is nothing to understand!!! This is understanding it self!!! That the thoughts can never and will never be able to grasp God, or reality. God is beyond. Ramana Maharshi said something like that: We compile knowledge until we realise that we are only ignorant or ignorance. and he says isn't that wisdom? The ultimate truth is not in the thoughts. Toughts are just a tool. That is all. If you think you are your legs. It is up to you! Well, I have legs and I use them when I run. It is useful! I am not the legs? Why is it so difficult for you to understand that you are not the toughts! Because you are the thoughts, for the moment. You are stuck in you thoughts. You are prisoner of them, BIG TIME !! Ramana says stop the thinking process and remain in the Self. Savikalpa Samadhi, Nirvikalpa Samadhi, Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi, Bhava Samadhi, Nirvana samadhi, Nirvana, are the prgression of the true seeker of God or true. And all those states I just mention are without thoughts! Completely without thoughts process. Don't think process. Literaly stopping thoughts. So guys were are you in the process? The Ego is still there in Savikalpa Samadhi and you talk about the non Ego etc. Where are you in that process? Do you realy think you will arrive at Ramana's place and respond to him: I think God is beyond, and He will give you a Realisation Certificate!!! Even if it is true that God is beyond! Sadhana is a true process. Looking after God is a true search as the Buddha did. Why didn't he gave himself a Self-Realised certificate. Before the awakening? Because the guy wanted the truth not a glimps of if. He stoped only when he awoke, truly. And if this awakening is like Ramana says that there is only ignorance! Well the buddha's ignorance is not ignorance at all!!! :0) Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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