Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > Some people wrote: > > >A:There can only be ONE. ))))) > > >B:so right .... there r no enlightened people ... > >there is only the " Enlightened One " ... > > >C:And also the Enlightened Ones will never be in the Group .... > >they will be lost in silence. > > >D:Silence? " Consider the lilies in the field, they neither toil nor > >spin... " Jesus Christ said (or something like that anyway > > Hey, didnt I tell you guys: > " - Warning: not for those who take everything serious " > > Haha... its allright... maybe you are only joking... > S. ************************************************** I don't think they were joking! I think they were giving you what they believe is the good answer! Look at B: Look at C: and then look at D: Silence? yes, of course, Look at the first!!! There is only one, seems the best no? I prefer toombaru's zombee jamboree!! doesn't he dances nicely. ( no joke) he dances when it is time to dance, he plays when it's time to play. Meanwhile he is the very son of that childless mother, my own mother! until lately I didn't know I had a brother! :0) All these answers are correct. All differend level of understanding! That is all! I just didn't now who was were? :0) Now how about your understanding. Did you do the mantra I gave you or you tought I was a silly guy too? :0)) Love Alberto, P.S. what have you learn until now! Go ahead speak. I'm listening to you, trust me, I won't ridiculise you!! :0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > Some people wrote: > > >A:There can only be ONE. ))))) > > >B:so right .... there r no enlightened people ... > >there is only the " Enlightened One " ... > > >C:And also the Enlightened Ones will never be in the Group .... > >they will be lost in silence. > > >D:Silence? " Consider the lilies in the field, they neither toil nor > >spin... " Jesus Christ said (or something like that anyway > > Hey, didnt I tell you guys: > " - Warning: not for those who take everything serious " > > Haha... its allright... maybe you are only joking... > S. Hi Stefan, " You don't make yourself grow. You _let_ yourself grow. " -- Vernon Howard Just like the lily, let the God-Force of the universe support you. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Hi you all... your statements are all very beautiful answers, no doubt! I was just pointing to my statement that indicated, that I did not mean a single word seriously in my " statistics " . I was completely fed up with " enlightenment " blabla at this moment and wondered how anybody could ever talk about " enlightenment " seriously. And then I was amazed, that even such a fun-posting received serious answers about enlightenment from some members. But I did not intend to degrade any of those answers. Thx Stefan Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> > wrote: > > > > Some people wrote: > > > > >A:There can only be ONE. ))))) > > > > >B:so right .... there r no enlightened people ... > > >there is only the " Enlightened One " ... > > > > >C:And also the Enlightened Ones will never be in the Group .... > > >they will be lost in silence. > > > > >D:Silence? " Consider the lilies in the field, they neither toil > nor > > >spin... " Jesus Christ said (or something like that anyway > > > > Hey, didnt I tell you guys: > > " - Warning: not for those who take everything serious " > > > > Haha... its allright... maybe you are only joking... > > S. > > Hi Stefan, > > " You don't make yourself grow. You _let_ yourself grow. " -- Vernon > Howard > > Just like the lily, let the God-Force of the universe support you. > > /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > Hi you all... > > your statements are all very beautiful answers, no doubt! I was just > pointing to my statement that indicated, that I did not mean a single > word seriously in my " statistics " . I was completely fed up with > " enlightenment " blabla at this moment and wondered how anybody could > ever talk about " enlightenment " seriously. And then I was amazed, that > even such a fun-posting received serious answers about enlightenment > from some members. But I did not intend to degrade any of those > answers. > > Thx > Stefan Here is some serious (weird) stuff for the one (One ;-) who would like to know what they are: http://www.2012.com.au/real_matrix.html Here is a quote from that page: " 'Do you think the Infinite gets old?' asked the voice. 'Human minds are programmed to believe that their bodies age and so they do and this strengthens the illusion more than anything of passing from past to future.' Nothing aged in truth because there was no time, no past and no future. Only illusion draws a pension, it said. " :-) /AL > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Some people wrote: > > > > > > >A:There can only be ONE. ))))) > > > > > > >B:so right .... there r no enlightened people ... > > > >there is only the " Enlightened One " ... > > > > > > >C:And also the Enlightened Ones will never be in the Group .... > > > >they will be lost in silence. > > > > > > >D:Silence? " Consider the lilies in the field, they neither toil > > nor > > > >spin... " Jesus Christ said (or something like that anyway > > > > > > Hey, didnt I tell you guys: > > > " - Warning: not for those who take everything serious " > > > > > > Haha... its allright... maybe you are only joking... > > > S. > > > > Hi Stefan, > > > > " You don't make yourself grow. You _let_ yourself grow. " -- Vernon > > Howard > > > > Just like the lily, let the God-Force of the universe support you. > > > > /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 > Now to your remark that you won't consider someone who still is in > the children state a seeker. Let me cite this great Swiss > psychologist Szondi who stated that of 150000 (hundred fifty > thousand) so called grown-ups only one has really matured and became > an adult, and all the others are still in the state of children - > children in old bodies. > > What I wanted to say is do you consider you being an adult or would > you see yourself still being in the state of a child ? This is not > meant as an attack nor as an joke, it is a serious question. > > Werner devi: well. that ya go,,,your a child in an old body and ya at least know it.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Maharaj said something like: > > " I am the highest reality, beyond consciousness and its observer, > beyond the world and its creator " . > > Strange that there is an observer observing consciousness, isn't it ? > And further that I am beyond all this, beyond consciousness ? > > Consciousness is its content, there is no consciousness separate from > the content: No content, no consciousness. When we die all contents > are gone and with it consciousness, which in reality never existed. > Consciousness is just a fucntion of the brain and there is nothing > special or holy about it. > > What then it is this " observer " observing the content/conciousness ? > I would say it is just another content: Body/mind. It is this well > known identification with body and mind which causes the illusion of > separation and so the observer. But in reality neither body nor mind > is observing anything, it is just an illusion, a convention. > > To give consciousness this magic quality, this eternal existence, has > its root in the survival instinct: I live eternally because I am > consciousness which never changes, only the contents are changing and > splashdash: With this trick I am sittind glued forever on the horse > of eternity. Most seekers are sitting on this horse. > > Werner devi: its seems to me that you haven't understood... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > Some people wrote: > > >A:There can only be ONE. ))))) > > >B:so right .... there r no enlightened people ... > >there is only the " Enlightened One " ... > > >C:And also the Enlightened Ones will never be in the Group .... THEY WILL BE LOST IN SILENCE. > > >D:Silence? " Consider the lilies in the field, they neither toil nor > >spin... " Jesus Christ said (or something like that anyway > ------------------------------- It amazes me how the mind twists and turns back and forth upon itself. If I recall correctly westerners wanted a messiah. Unfortunatley he didn't fit into their Idea of what a Christ should be. He came as a lowly carpenter. He wasn't accepted, in fact he was killed/crucified. I wonder if he came as a computer geek would he be crucified?? Aaaaaah, the human is fickle and difficult to appease. There is just no pleasing y'all. You want silence because you think that's what this great messiah should be. She's silent and you get upset. He talks and you say, No, NO you mustn't speak. Honestly, what to do you want at this point. " It " creeps back into the shadows watching the merry-go- wheel go round and round. Everyone's looking for something so grand but in fact, your limitations you put on this is the very thing that boggles your mind. Keep beating that mind geurilla. Keep playing those mind games (forever??) (courtesy of Mind Games – John Lennon) ~*~ G.R.R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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