Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Toombaru wrote 'I'm just wondering........ What happens when you mix dyslexia with conceptual non-duality?' EXCELLENT/FUNNY QUESTION! Perhaps this can help: The book God Speaks by Meher Baba, pages 160-163. He writes: God in the Beyond-Beyond State This state of God is so transcendent that nothing can really be conceived of it. It is utterly pure and immaculate and has no tinge of " otherness. " It is the hidden of all hidden knowledge and the internal of all internal realities. It is beyond all words and so it cannot be adequately described. It is neither finite nor infinite, neither attributeless nor with attributes. In this domain the wings of thought, inference, discrimination and understanding are limp and useless. Meher Baba says that when one who has REALIZED this state of God tries to describe it to others, this act results in a descriptionnot of the first, but of the second state of God- God in the Beyond state. It is the Eternity of all eternities because no eternity can be conceived of to precede or to follow it. Here all indications are blotted out, since no ther thing exists that can be pointed out or referred to. This pure essence is not aware of anything, even of itself. This state has been referred to by the Sufis as Wara-ul-Wara- The Beyond-Beyond state of God. Vedanta calls it Paratpar Parabrahma. This is the state in which God is neither nirguna(attributeless) nor saguna(with attributes), neither nirakar(formless) nor sakar (with forms). ..... Thus, the most-original Beyond-Beyond state of God is that state where one can only say: God-is eternally; and that in this most-original state, God is neither infinitely nor finitely conscious, nor unconscious, of Self or of His own state of Infinitude. In this state, God is also neither conscious nor unconscious of illusion or Reality. ......God-realized beings, when they try to describe the Beyond-Beyond state, succeed only in describing the Beyond state of God, which is the Allah of Sufis, the Ahuramazda of Zoroastrians, the Paramatma of Vedantists, God the Father of Christians, and the Over-soul of some philosophers. God in the Beyond state is absolute,unlimited and infinite- the One without a second. Meher Baba, while explaing this second state of God, stressed that fundamenally state 2 is no way different from state 1 of God;......even though state 2 of God in Beyond state is the same ORIGINAL state of God, yet it is not the MOST-ORIGINAL state of God which is the Beyond-Beyond state. _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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