Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 > AdvaitaToZen , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > You guys don't seem to agree with the thoughts that old > toombarubrings up......(that are brought up....by > consciousness....... using his fingers)That's probably because > they don't match the preconceptions that youhave picked up over > the years....your parents and teachers probablytaught you some > other stuff.....Well that's ok.......He doesn'd understand most of > them himself......t. > > toombarutoombarutoombaru... > > I don't disagree with your thoughts, nonono... > > I disagree with the lack of conscious attention that seems to > afflict some of them. > > your thoughts are just words > fruit to hold in the mouth > roll against the tongue > and ultimately swallow > to digest into some form unrecognizable to all > but useful... > > I don't taste everything that people hand me > and I don't swallow everything I taste > and I don't understand people who tell me that I should. > > > > I have sincere doubts - by the way - > that consciousness > pure, unfiltered, divine consciousness > ever needs to get snippy about whether people agree with it. > > Behold! Our God is a Snippy God! > > doesn't have quite the ring to it, does it? : ) > > (just teasing you, my friend...) Ted P: No, it's not teasing with me. Toom, is caught in a trap, he can't get out because he loves his trap too much. Just like Elvis. Matter of fact, he's stuck in a very complex trap. He is caught by the trap that there is nothing that can be done. He is caught in the trap that he doesn't believe this is a trap. He is caught in the trap that he is comfortable in his trap. And finally, he is caught in the trap of the gushing mind. All those snippets flow out of his brain so easily, they are so colorful, they seem so wise that he believes that just because they keep coming, he has attained something. He is fooling himself by imagining his absence, while he keeps his nonstop posting up. Of course, he won't believe any of this, that's part of the trap too. ) Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 P: No, it's not teasing with me. Toom, is caught in a trap, he can't get out because he loves his trap too much. Just like Elvis. Matter of fact, he's stuck in a very complex trap. He is caught by the trap that there is nothing that can be done. He is caught in the trap that he doesn't believe this is a trap. He is caught in the trap that he is comfortable in his trap. And finally, he is caught in the trap of the gushing mind. All those snippets flow out of his brain so easily, they are so colorful, they seem so wise that he believes that just because they keep coming, he has attained something. He is fooling himself by imagining his absence, while he keeps his nonstop posting up. Of course, he won't believe any of this, that's part of the trap too. ) Pete >>>>>>>>>>> Who can say he/she is not stuck in such a trap... The premise of the above seems to be that one is either in or not in such a trap. The nature of the moment is complete uncertainty. The moment there is an assessment that such-and-such is the case the uncertainty collapses and one is not in the moment. What I like about toombaru's writings (and caveat here as I have been away for some time, so maybe my impressions are not current) is their open-endedness. The way they provoke ambiguity. I don't get the feeling that toombaru is saying " this is the way it is " in his remarks. I see his remarks as little goads and probes. Because they are open-ended they allow others to respond in may different ways... they can be taken in a number of different directions. My two pence... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > AdvaitaToZen , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > You guys don't seem to agree with the thoughts that old > > toombarubrings up......(that are brought up....by > > consciousness....... using his fingers)That's probably because > > they don't match the preconceptions that youhave picked up over > > the years....your parents and teachers probablytaught you some > > other stuff.....Well that's ok.......He doesn'd understand most of > > them himself......t. > > > > toombarutoombarutoombaru... > > > > I don't disagree with your thoughts, nonono... > > > > I disagree with the lack of conscious attention that seems to > > afflict some of them. > > > > your thoughts are just words > > fruit to hold in the mouth > > roll against the tongue > > and ultimately swallow > > to digest into some form unrecognizable to all > > but useful... > > > > I don't taste everything that people hand me > > and I don't swallow everything I taste > > and I don't understand people who tell me that I should. > > > > > > > > I have sincere doubts - by the way - > > that consciousness > > pure, unfiltered, divine consciousness > > ever needs to get snippy about whether people agree with it. > > > > Behold! Our God is a Snippy God! > > > > doesn't have quite the ring to it, does it? : ) > > > > (just teasing you, my friend...) > > Ted > > P: No, it's not teasing with me. Toom, is caught in a trap, > he can't get out because he loves his trap too much. > Just like Elvis. Matter of fact, he's stuck in a very > complex trap. > He is caught by the trap that there is nothing that can > be done. He is caught in the trap that he doesn't believe > this is a trap. He is caught in the trap that he is > comfortable in his trap. And finally, he is caught in > the trap of the gushing mind. All those snippets flow > out of his brain so easily, they are so colorful, > they seem so wise that he believes that just because > they keep coming, he has attained something. > He is fooling himself by imagining his absence, while > he keeps his nonstop posting up. > > Of course, he won't believe any of this, that's part > of the trap too. ) > > Pete ************************************ Hey Pete! Ha ha ha! You have eagle eyes!! You can see the mouse from the top of the mountain! :0) lol You discribe his situation very well!! Yes Tell, Elvis to wake up! He wants to continue dreaming that he is the " KING " and that the road ends with him. You give a 1$ to a poor guy and he thinks he is millionaire!! lol Did you really said that above Toombaru?: You guys don't seem to agree with the thoughts that old > > toombaru brings up......(that are brought up....by > > consciousness....... using his fingers Ramana would not be proud of you Toomb, he gives you Freedom and you take a nice comfortable trap? :0 and of course Pete he will deny everything to keep his trap! Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 > P: No, it's not teasing with me. Toom, is caught in a trap, > he can't get out because he loves his trap too much. > Just like Elvis. Matter of fact, he's stuck in a very > complex trap. > He is caught by the trap that there is nothing that can > be done. He is caught in the trap that he doesn't believe > this is a trap. He is caught in the trap that he is > comfortable in his trap. And finally, he is caught in > the trap of the gushing mind. All those snippets flow > out of his brain so easily, they are so colorful, > they seem so wise that he believes that just because > they keep coming, he has attained something. > He is fooling himself by imagining his absence, while > he keeps his nonstop posting up. > > Of course, he won't believe any of this, that's part > of the trap too. ) > > Pete .......non-stop posting? Have you " Grandpas " nothing to do in the backyard, now, that it is autumn. " Grandma " , perhaps, could profit of a little help with the household or some other " nice " things ) It's time to rock 'n roll! BTW, Pete, " was sich liebt, das neckt sich! " , ol' german proverb! Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > > P: No, it's not teasing with me. Toom, is caught in a trap, > > he can't get out because he loves his trap too much. > > Just like Elvis. Matter of fact, he's stuck in a very > > complex trap. > > He is caught by the trap that there is nothing that can > > be done. He is caught in the trap that he doesn't believe > > this is a trap. He is caught in the trap that he is > > comfortable in his trap. And finally, he is caught in > > the trap of the gushing mind. All those snippets flow > > out of his brain so easily, they are so colorful, > > they seem so wise that he believes that just because > > they keep coming, he has attained something. > > He is fooling himself by imagining his absence, while > > he keeps his nonstop posting up. > > > > Of course, he won't believe any of this, that's part > > of the trap too. ) > > > > Pete > > > ......non-stop posting? Have you " Grandpas " nothing to do in the > backyard, now, that it is autumn. " Grandma " , perhaps, could profit > of a little help with the household or some other " nice " things ) > > It's time to rock 'n roll! > > BTW, Pete, " was sich liebt, das neckt sich! " , ol' german proverb! > > > Kip Almazy I know. God pampers those he intent to damn, and hurt those he will save. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 > I know. God pampers those he intent to damn, and hurt those he will > save. > > Pete LOL!!!You know I love you! Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > > I know. God pampers those he intent to damn, and hurt those he will > > save. > > > > Pete > > > LOL!!!You know I love you! > > > Kip Almazy Who said you didn't? What I said was, testing someone, doesn't disprove love, on the contrary. People here, might think I don't like those I give a hard time. The opposite is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Pete, U seem to understand God So much ... Does God callu every morning to tell u what he is going to do murali, cerosoul [Pedsie2] Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:52 PM Nisargadatta Re: Ted And Pete Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > > I know. God pampers those he intent to damn, and hurt those he will > > save. > > > > Pete > > > LOL!!!You know I love you! > > > Kip Almazy Who said you didn't? What I said was, testing someone, doesn't disprove love, on the contrary. People here, might think I don't like those I give a hard time. The opposite is true. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> > wrote: >>LOL!!!You know I love you! >> Kip Almazy > >Who said you didn't? >What I said was, testing someone, doesn't disprove love, on the >contrary. People here, might think I don't like those I give >a hard time. The opposite is true. Peteman, did you know that there are different kinds of love? I n Greek we have two different words for " Love " at least. Not to speak about Sanskrit!!!! Hahahahaha..... Stefan The Magic Achileas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > Lol. When I write the word God, it's always metaphorical, each time the meaning changes with the contex of the paragraph. Probably, the word doesn't have the exact meaning for everyone. Probably, few really know what the word even means to them. It could be the word, in reality, points more toward a cluster of feelings, experiences and intuitions. So, in the phrase below the metaphore simply means that suffering is, if not the best guru, the most efficient one. And usually, does who live a pampered and happy life, learn little. Pete Pete, > U seem to understand God So much ... > Does God callu every morning to tell u what he is going to do > murali, > > > cerosoul [Pedsie2@a...] > Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:52 PM > Nisargadatta > Re: Ted And Pete > > > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> > wrote: > > > > > I know. God pampers those he intent to damn, and hurt those he > will > > > save. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > LOL!!!You know I love you! > > > > > > Kip Almazy > > Who said you didn't? > What I said was, testing someone, doesn't disprove love, on the > contrary. People here, might think I don't like those I give > a hard time. The opposite is true. > > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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