Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > When an invisible man looks in a mirror, > he sees nothing but the mirror. Yet, he > is there as an unseen presence. In the > morning, as your brain wakes up, the > mirror > of consciousness reflects nothing, and > yet, > a presence is there, lurking unseen before > thoughts come to cloud the glass. 'You,' > are that presence, and if the presence is > felt by the presence, it will expand, > and swallow the world. No titles stick to > that, neither God, nor Self, nor I am. > It's what it is, beyond consciousness, > beyond life, and beyond death. Of it, > never > say, that it exist; nor that it does not > exists. > > Pete --great writing Pete ! Era ps: why didn't you post this at the club you moderate: the live NDS ? called: <NonDualPhil> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok> wrote: > > " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > > > > When an invisible man looks in a mirror, > > he sees nothing but the mirror. Yet, he > > is there as an unseen presence. In the > > morning, as your brain wakes up, the > > mirror > > of consciousness reflects nothing, and > > yet, > > a presence is there, lurking unseen before > > thoughts come to cloud the glass. 'You,' > > are that presence, and if the presence is > > felt by the presence, it will expand, > > and swallow the world. No titles stick to > > that, neither God, nor Self, nor I am. > > It's what it is, beyond consciousness, > > beyond life, and beyond death. Of it, > > never > > say, that it exist; nor that it does not > > exists. > > > > Pete > > > --great writing Pete ! ERa Well, thanks, but as usual, I screwed the grammar. The last sentence should read: Of it, never say, that it exists; nor that it doesn't exist. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > When an invisible man looks in a mirror, > he sees nothing but the mirror. Ok....I'm having a little trouble with this invisible man anology......Normally....in order to induce interest.....it is good to use something real to contrast with something unreal...... by combining two unreals.....the entity and his invisibility .....the whole thing gets a little weak. The mirror.....needs some thing to reflect.....or......there is no mirror. I must be missing something here..... Yet, he > is there as an unseen presence. In the > morning, as your brain wakes up, the mirror > of consciousness reflects nothing, and yet, > a presence is there, lurking unseen before > thoughts come to cloud the glass. Do you propose that " presence " is somehow beyond the entity...but yet able to be experienced by the entity? 'You,' > are that presence, and if the presence is > felt by the presence, it will expand, > and swallow the world. I sorry Pete.... but this sounds more like science fiction movie then a picture of reality. ......something bigger then the dream.....expanding and swallowing the dream.... No titles stick to > that, neither God, nor Self, nor I am. > It's what it is, beyond consciousness, > beyond life, and beyond death. Of it, never > say, that it exist; nor that it does not exists. Ok.......I'll never say that....... You know......I'll bet I'm missing something that you were trying to say........ toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > > > > When an invisible man looks in a mirror, > > he sees nothing but the mirror. > > > Ok....I'm having a little trouble with this invisible man anology......Normally....in order to induce interest.....it is good to use something real to contrast with something unreal...... by combining two unreals.....the entity and his invisibility .....the whole thing gets a little weak. > > > The mirror.....needs some thing to reflect.....or......there is no mirror. > > I must be missing something here..... > > > > > Yet, he > > is there as an unseen presence. In the > > morning, as your brain wakes up, the mirror > > of consciousness reflects nothing, and yet, > > a presence is there, lurking unseen before > > thoughts come to cloud the glass. > > > > > Do you propose that " presence " is somehow beyond the entity...but yet able to be experienced by the entity? > > > > 'You,' > > are that presence, and if the presence is > > felt by the presence, it will expand, > > and swallow the world. > > I sorry Pete.... but this sounds more like science fiction movie then a picture of reality. > > .....something bigger then the dream.....expanding and swallowing the dream.... > > > No titles stick to > > that, neither God, nor Self, nor I am. > > It's what it is, beyond consciousness, > > beyond life, and beyond death. Of it, never > > say, that it exist; nor that it does not exists. > > > > Ok.......I'll never say that....... > > > > You know......I'll bet I'm missing something that you were trying to say........ > > > > > toombaru When thoughts chase thoughts, that in which thoughts float is not seen. So yes, you have a little problem distinguishing the sky from the clouds. Just another metaphore for you to have a little trouble with. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: .... > When thoughts chase thoughts, that in which thoughts float is not > seen. So yes, you have a little problem distinguishing the sky > from the clouds. Just another metaphore for you to have a little > trouble with. > > Pete e. juss' checking if it is more lively on this side, where are all the net gone, saturday shopping i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <brahmanshines@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > > ... > > > When thoughts chase thoughts, that in which thoughts float is not > > seen. So yes, you have a little problem distinguishing the sky > > from the clouds. Just another metaphore for you to have a little > > trouble with. > > > > Pete > > e. juss' checking if it is more lively on this side, where are all > the net gone, saturday shopping i guess. Merci, mon vieux, scrire nous un poeme du Les Fleures Du Mal. En Francais, naturellement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > When an invisible man looks in a mirror, > he sees nothing but the mirror. Yet, he > is there as an unseen presence. In the > morning, as your brain wakes up, the mirror > of consciousness reflects nothing, and yet, > a presence is there, lurking unseen before > thoughts come to cloud the glass. 'You,' > are that presence, and if the presence is > felt by the presence, it will expand, > and swallow the world. No titles stick to > that, neither God, nor Self, nor I am. > It's what it is, beyond consciousness, > beyond life, and beyond death. Of it, never > say, that it exist; nor that it does not exists. > > Pete *********************************************** I'm so sad, so sad. You Pete were fouling us all the time. Pretending you were another, a dumb guy you know, uggg Well I don't know type of guy! And you moderate another web site!!!!! All the time you were playing with the people here. Have fun! hidding behind your computer! and laughing all the time at us. You speak english and you know how things work here. I'm so ashamed of you. If you truly are what you wrote above in you kind poem. That mean you are Enlighten. And if you truly are, shame on you. Treating people like you do. You think the buddha would do such a thing playing with some honest people who are looking for real answers. What did you tell tell them! That they are not real and that they have a direct flight to the absolute warranty by Mr. Pete man!! You over looked the Masters my friend Big time!!! I almost don't even know what a thought is anymore! I almost see only the blue sky. No more thought to hide it. You know what that means. That I'm not that easy to foul concerning the Truth and Spiorituality because I see it with my own eyes! What did you tell them? Did you said at least what do buddha teached or did you gave them your personal fabric medicine! Maybe again I might be naive and have not yet understood that no one is looking for God, or truth. I doubt it! God or Truth is not just for a good discution to show the others that we know our stuff!! Poor You. I'm giving you the gold medal for having two faces. You were hidding yourself all this time. I was not! I'm naive you are right! I asked you few questions just to learn more about you. You never answered. You like to control and manipultate. Go ask some great Spiritual Leaders, as Toombaru said' you should move to California you will find some people that will like to kiss your feet! Oh mighty Guru! Love Do you know what it is? That means love the other not foul the other! Clown!! You stament or poem wrote above my dear friend is the drescribtion of my life. This is my final statement. " I am " state is before! I stop thoughts at will. I won't tell you more because it is enough for you to see me! I had so many mystic experiences that I don't know where to put them! What you wrote. I live and breath every day and I don't need theories to prove what I see and feel every single day of my life! I enter here to chat with you guys to understand things and to evolve get smarter together in Love. But you laught at Bhakti you don't even have a clue what is bhakti?????? You think it is just to show off!! My friend!! I hope for you that all what you wrote is live and breath in you live. if not, You are just a clown, a clown. and as I said if you are Enlighten. Man Buddha is cry now. You rob your father's money and you spent in the Casinos! I think you are or maybe one or two other Alians of your group who could truly be enlighten. But maybe it just fake too!! I'm so sad. Nothing is, Nothing exist, Don't do nothing all is already gained!!! Freedom for all!. Stefan was realy angry with you but I know now why he was, for the same reasons I am at this very moment. Mr, Pete's medicine! Not the masters medicine. And yes it is a medicine to cure the Ego. The masters give us a medice to cure the Ego not to cure the Self or the Void or God or Reality!!! Stop laughin at the Masters! The are wise! They knew it was a medicine!! Have you been at the edge of the world my friend. Truly out of body experience. As vivekananda experience of the univers etc. I did, and several time etc. Childs acting like childs is a good thing. It is normal. But a Master like you, if you are a master, (meaning if you live your statement) playing with them. I am sad. I like Stefan the great warrior cuting the ignorance, and you wanted to cut his head instead. I like Toombaru, with his Zoombie Jamboree. At least he is steady in his learning he accomplished a lot you know. He is at the feet of Ramana when he wants to. And he is more wise then you. He is not playing, he does but with his heart. he wants to learn. He breaths what he knows. Love Toombaru. Who cares who knows!. Who cares for the answers! We want questions, who cares for the real seekers, most of us are false. Same for the Christians, and I know them. They seem so good people, but when you have a chance to truly know them all they want to do is to chop your head of!! They are much less spiritual then a regular non spiritual human being! Do you understand something??? I don't P.S. If you think what I said fits with you take it! If not don't bother! Love to the true seekers! Alberto, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " > <brahmanshines@a...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > When thoughts chase thoughts, that in which thoughts float is not > > > seen. So yes, you have a little problem distinguishing the sky > > > from the clouds. Just another metaphore for you to have a little > > > trouble with. > > > > > > Pete > > > > e. juss' checking if it is more lively on this side, where are all > > the net gone, saturday shopping i guess. > > Merci, mon vieux, scrire nous un poeme du Les Fleures Du Mal. En > Francais, naturellement. mierda! tu tambien hablas frances! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <brahmanshines@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " > > <brahmanshines@a...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > When thoughts chase thoughts, that in which thoughts float is > not > > > > seen. So yes, you have a little problem distinguishing the sky > > > > from the clouds. Just another metaphore for you to have a > little > > > > trouble with. > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > e. juss' checking if it is more lively on this side, where are > all > > > the net gone, saturday shopping i guess. > > > > Merci, mon vieux, scrire nous un poeme du Les Fleures Du Mal. En > > Francais, naturellement. > > mierda! tu tambien hablas frances! Nah! Just fooling around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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