How to live? (Dan)

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hya dan,

 

--- dan330033 <berkowd wrote:

 

>> How can you be absolutely sure your body will die

>> when you have not experienced that yourself???

[cut]

> > /AL

 

 

>You can define yourself however you want, if it

>makes you happy. As indestructible, infinite,

>whatever floats your boat. Or you can say your a

>descendent from a long line of royalty, or possessed

>by the archangel Gabriel. Whatever makes you happy.

>Still, it's just you using flowery-sounding words to

>create a happy image for yourself.

>

>Painting pictures with words that really can't do a

>damn thing for you, except make you temporarily

>satisfied with your ability to paint word pictures.

>

> -- Dan

 

Welcome back from .....(the dead?)

How's your (closed) forum going ?

Sandeep's (closed) " Yearning " seems to have been shut

down ...or did it self-destruct as in " mission

impossible " .

 

You're correct from a biased standpoint though.

Dialectically speaking, words used effectively(what

the bedi dude Nisargadatta calls - mantric, mahavakyas

or pointers-) root out false or distorted concepts,

finally discarding itself in the process...clarity

revealed...the wordless source.

 

Ask William " Words-worth " for a second opinion.

 

-dave

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <berkowd@u...>

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Shawn " <shawnregan>

wrote:

> >

> > > How can you be absolutely sure your body will die when you

have

> > not

> > > experienced that yourself??? What many sages say may be true:

the

> > > world is in you, not you in the world. Maybe the human body is

> > > indestructible and only a shape-shifting package of

information

> in

> > an

> > > infinite timeless matrix of awareness. Scientists say that the

> > body is

> > > made out of atoms, but also that atoms are neither particles

nor

> > > waves. See the confusion? Observation creates reality. Who is

the

> > > observer?

> >

> > Anders,

> >

> > I had a slight shift into that state yesterday. I had the best

day

> > on about a month and my mind was much more free than my

condition

> > has allowed for a while. It's amazing how one doesn't know that

one

> > is in a restrictuve box until the box is removed (perhaps for a

> > bigger box) then the remembrance of the larger box comes and one

is

> > sad and happy at the same time for knowing what was lost which

now

> > is found but for how long.

> >

> > Shawn

>

> You only know the truth when you're not moving into a state,

> nor out of a state.

>

> There's nothing to grasp here.

>

> Not because anything is negated, but because negation and

> affirmation can't be applied.

>

> -- Dan

 

Dan,

 

Glad to see another familiar name from last year. I remember your

words were always penetrating, when I could grasp them at least.

 

I agree with what you say. If we watch our mind we can see that our

actions, internal dialog, etc. are ego driven. What is at the other

end the " nothing " the impersonal. You seem to be guiding us to the

impersonal by negating the personal.

 

Shawn