Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Nisargadatta , " valarie " <rudra_yogini> wrote: > > > pete mused [[be still, be nothing, is the only solution.]] > ** i agree. > > [[Don't ask. Just do it. There is no other way to be free from the > losing/gaining game.]] > ** there is no losing/gaining b/c there is no 'game.' > > om peace!.. > valarie P: Valerie, long time no see. What kind of games have you been playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 > > P: Yes, it was you, two years ago, who took offense when I told you on this list you were as realized as a bag of warm piss. You said that was no way to treat an enlightened being. You also said the word piss revolted you. I'm glad you got over that silly aversion at a harmless word. devi: i'm not over it..but, you will allow me this one flaw..? I'm also glad you have realized that you're not realized. devi: i didn't say i am not realized > As far as Harsha, he knows what you know, book learning. I'm > not interested in what people know. But if you want to discuss > your own insights, I'll listen. devi: haha, thats hysterical...harshaji is realized, no doubt in my mind!.....well, i'll tell you, if i know what he knows then i am pretty lucky....nice chatting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote:> > " devianandi " <polansky@m...> > > > devi: so what is yours pete? > > > > > > > > P: Now who is avoiding? > > > > > > devi: i posted my idea about enlightenment a few posts back, you > > > skipped it? > > > > > > > > I have written about that many times. > > > > > > i read what your thoughts are and they seem like *enlightnened* > > > thoghts* > > > > > > > There is not any condition an entity > > > > could attain that is perfect and > > > > permanent. > > > > > > devi: ok i can agree with that, but if someone comes along and > says > > > that there is i can agree with that too,, > > > > > > > > > There is direct perception, > > > > > > devi: of what? > > > > P: If there is a what, then it's not direct perception. > > There is no what, and no perceiver. > > > > > > > > > > > full attention to the present, clarity, > > > > > > devi: > > > > > > > > > a sense of voidness and freedom, bliss intelligence, wisdom, > but > > no > > > one owns those things. It's the very urge to > > > own, to be, to act and avoid stillness which is the problem we > go > > > around and around trying to solve. > > > > > > devi: thats all very well and nice, very *advanced* practice > but > > > when you read, say, nizargadatta, and he talkes about the > Supreme, > > > are you knowing what he is talking about? when ramana is > talking > > > about the Self..do you konw what he is talking..have you > > expereinced > > > the Self minus everything in creation... > > > > P: Knowing? There is no knowing the Absolute. When the " I " is not > > there, what is left, is the unknown, Nis called, the Absolute. > > So anyone claiming to know, is either mistaken, telling a lie, or > > using the word very loosely for teaching purposes. > > > > So what's your story. Are you, or not? Devi realized ? Devi posts all over the net, that she did *realize the Self what means of course, that her imagined state equals of that of Raman Maharshi I arrest my case ! -her own master Hari Dass denies all her claims .. and so did the authorities set up to judge who are able to think clearly > Speak up or.... > > piss off. ) Yar favorite word! I haven't forgotten. > > devi: i serioulsy don't like the term *piss-off* maybe i have > written it once..so you must have me confused with someone else..era > maybe.... no, not in my vocabulary Era > as for my story, i'm not looking to get scrutinized in here again... > > so, now, harshaji writes about self-realization much better than i, > maybe he can repost his *essay* *discourse*...for you to read...or > have you already...what he describes i *know* to be right as Self- > realization...have yor read any of his writing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 > > > So what's your story. Are you, or not? > era: Devi realized ? devi: oh great era, you've found another opportunity to advertize me as a self-realized being... Devi posts all over the net, that she did *realize the Self devi: lets get more precise, i think i've mentionion it in guru ratings, and here,,,maybe you can name a few other places...*all over the net* is a huge lie... era:what means of course, that her imagined state equals of that of Raman Maharshi devi: all realized being have realized the Self...some sit absorbed in the Self like ramana or baba hari dass amachi, others just go about raising families going to jobs...who knows... era:I arrest my case ! devi: i wish someone would arrest you era: -her own master Hari Dass denies all her claims .. devi: here is a perfect example of a person (era) who loves to make up stories in her head, not only ignorant but totally deluded....tell me, who did he deny my claims to, does he even know i make any claim...i don't think so.. era: and so did the authorities set up to judge who are able to think clearly devi: ok, era, name some names...who are these authories? jody? pete: Speak up or.... piss off. ) Yar favorite word! I haven't forgotten. devi: i serioulsy don't like the term *piss-off* maybe i have written it once..so you must have me confused with someone else..era maybe.... era: no, not in my vocabulary devi: oh really, well your heads always in the toilet bowl so i just assumed... devi: how did it feel to get thrown out of another club the other day becasue you harass me..is this about the 7th club you've been thrown out of because you are obsesseed with tryng to hurt me, humilite me.prove that i am not realized...you do realize that most everyone thinks your mentally ill..sad era...get some help > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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