Why Westerners follow Ramana etc.

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

This falls into different categories.

 

1. First of all there are those that like the teachings and seems to

suit the western instant gratification syndrome. You don't have to

do anything, just read his books, preach a little about love and

say 'Who am I?'. Misunderstanding and practical hypocrisy seem to

come to some of them.

Others make a Godform out of him and worship an advaitin,?????????

but also without a lot of committment to any great Sadhana.

 

2. Then there are those that apply the Hindu Dharma and all its

precepts and concepts, including Ahimsa, vegetarianism etc etc. They

are essentially a Hindu Sect and that's alright for those who are

Bhaktas.

 

3. Lastly there are those that have gone through the stages and

arrived at True Self Enquiry. And realise that 'Who am I' requires a

whole lot of sadhana and practice to get the mental maturity, and

purification to fully understand it. It is not instant

gratification, pollyanna, emotionalism but a complex system of

Sadhana.

 

So there are many stages on the path and many in following the

teaching of Ramana. As Maharaj said only one man in Mumbai can even

understand non dualism

intellectually................ONS..Saktidas/Tony.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery>

wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> This falls into different categories.

>

> 1. First of all there are those that like the teachings and seems

to

> suit the western instant gratification syndrome. You don't have to

> do anything, just read his books, preach a little about love and

> say 'Who am I?'. Misunderstanding and practical hypocrisy seem to

> come to some of them.

> Others make a Godform out of him and worship an advaitin,?????????

> but also without a lot of committment to any great Sadhana.

>>>>Does one choose a path,sadhana,teacher,or any such words?; or

does a path,etc.,resonate that which is our being? I can only speak

of my own experience. I discovered (or thought I did)Ramana and

Maharaj at the same time, saw much in Ramana, but Nisarargadatta

reached my soul. I cannot say that Sri Ramana is any the lessor or

his followers less commited than me. And i do not know who your

sources are. But I heard Maharaj speak only well of Ramanana.

Several of his long-time followers visited Maharaj often; he was

always happy when one of them joined his Satsang. On one occassion

an elderly man and his family visited. When he left Maharaj sat with

eyes closed, then smiled and said that man spent 20 years with the

Maharshi. He did not come here to receive from me. He knows all he

needs. He brought his son and Daughter to meet me and perhaps

learn. I do question why some appear to validate themselves by

downgrading others. PS: Maharaj was not impressed with an intelec-

tual understanding of vedanta: john (formerly jcoxco here)

> 2. Then there are those that apply the Hindu Dharma and all its

> precepts and concepts, including Ahimsa, vegetarianism etc etc.

They

> are essentially a Hindu Sect and that's alright for those who are

> Bhaktas.

>

> 3. Lastly there are those that have gone through the stages and

> arrived at True Self Enquiry. And realise that 'Who am I' requires

a

> whole lot of sadhana and practice to get the mental maturity, and

> purification to fully understand it. It is not instant

> gratification, pollyanna, emotionalism but a complex system of

> Sadhana.

>

> So there are many stages on the path and many in following the

> teaching of Ramana. As Maharaj said only one man in Mumbai can even

> understand non dualism

> intellectually................ONS..Saktidas/Tony.

[Guest guest]

Well well well, Isn't this post below interesting! I guess most of

you just erased what has been said in this post thinking it was just

bull %$#$! the western instant gratification syndrome!! ha ha ha!

I like that! Good post! If enlightement would be that easy to gain.

Well Master NIS and Ramana wouldn't be soo important! There are some

people that say that they understand Master Nis but when they speak

it is the opposite of his teachings??? They understand Ramana but

when I say the same thing in my words of what Ramana taught They say

that I am a clown?? and they laugh at what I said. You can laugh at

me but not at Ramana's teachings. Well if you say you like Ramana!

 

Odysseus,

 

Nisargadatta , " johnterrapin "

<johnterrapin> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > This falls into different categories.

> >

> > 1. First of all there are those that like the teachings and

seems

> to suit the western instant gratification syndrome. You don't have

to

> > do anything, just read his books, preach a little about love and

> > say 'Who am I?'. Misunderstanding and practical hypocrisy seem

to

> > come to some of them.

> > Others make a Godform out of him and worship an

advaitin,?????????

> > but also without a lot of committment to any great Sadhana.

> >>>>Does one choose a path,sadhana,teacher,or any such words?; or

> does a path,etc.,resonate that which is our being? I can only

speak

> of my own experience. I discovered (or thought I did)Ramana and

> Maharaj at the same time, saw much in Ramana, but Nisarargadatta

> reached my soul. I cannot say that Sri Ramana is any the lessor

or

> his followers less commited than me. And i do not know who your

> sources are. But I heard Maharaj speak only well of Ramanana.

> Several of his long-time followers visited Maharaj often; he was

> always happy when one of them joined his Satsang. On one

occassion

> an elderly man and his family visited. When he left Maharaj sat

with

> eyes closed, then smiled and said that man spent 20 years with the

> Maharshi. He did not come here to receive from me. He knows all

he

> needs. He brought his son and Daughter to meet me and perhaps

> learn. I do question why some appear to validate themselves by

> downgrading others. PS: Maharaj was not impressed with an intelec-

 

> tual understanding of vedanta: john (formerly jcoxco here)

> > 2. Then there are those that apply the Hindu Dharma and all its

> > precepts and concepts, including Ahimsa, vegetarianism etc etc.

> They

> > are essentially a Hindu Sect and that's alright for those who

are

> > Bhaktas.

> >

> > 3. Lastly there are those that have gone through the stages and

> > arrived at True Self Enquiry. And realise that 'Who am I'

requires

> a

> > whole lot of sadhana and practice to get the mental maturity,

and

> > purification to fully understand it. It is not instant

> > gratification, pollyanna, emotionalism but a complex system of

> > Sadhana.

> >

> > So there are many stages on the path and many in following the

> > teaching of Ramana. As Maharaj said only one man in Mumbai can

even

> > understand non dualism

> > intellectually................ONS..Saktidas/Tony.