Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Li Wah, said, " The eastern hills are nothing but a dream. " Wu Chi, replied, " And yet, when the win blows over the ice, how nice to sit in the kitchen next to the boiling rice. " Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > Li Wah, said, " The eastern hills are nothing but a dream. " > Wu Chi, replied, " And yet, when the win blows over the ice, > how nice to sit in the kitchen next to the boiling rice. " > > Pete *********************** Hi Pete, Not challenging, I wonder, finally the hills are they nothing but a dream? If so why Wu Chi replyed? adding something to the non-existent dream? Why waist so much energy to explain something that doesn't has existance? or something that is nothing? Nothing is nothing ; no value! Why waist so much effort!Why? Is Wu Chi a poor Master or maybe He understood something that we haven't? What is the source of the dream for us to call it non-existent? or a dream? Is life a dream? is this the final statement for us to call life a dream? What about your two very nice Spanish poems. Are they unreal? have you not wrote them? Or it just happens! :0)) What is this " it just happens " then? Who is that it just happens? Thoughts electric impulse? So life is not a dream then, it is electric impulses! or maybe life is an electric dream impulse!! How about that? So if we continue this way are we going to truly find what life is? the good definition you are saying others to drop? Life is this, life is that. But without us being life itself??? what is the purpuse of it, an Ego search? I know you are wiser than your teachings! What are you scare of? and don't tell me that you are not scared! The very impulse to control, to teach at all cost shows the hidden fear of yours. I'm not the only one that sees that! And you know it. I don't ask a response. I'm just saying that you are more advanced than your teachings. Why are you scared? Odysseus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > > > Li Wah, said, " The eastern hills are nothing but a dream. " > > Wu Chi, replied, " And yet, when the win blows over the ice, > > how nice to sit in the kitchen next to the boiling rice. " > > > > Pete > > *********************** > > Hi Pete, > > Not challenging, > > I wonder, finally the hills are they nothing but a dream? If so why > Wu Chi replyed? adding something to the non-existent dream? Why > waist so much energy to explain something that doesn't has > existance? or something that is nothing? Nothing is nothing ; no > value! Why waist so much effort!Why? Is Wu Chi a poor Master or > maybe He understood something that we haven't? What is the source of > the dream for us to call it non-existent? or a dream? Is life a > dream? is this the final statement for us to call life a dream? What > about your two very nice Spanish poems. Are they unreal? have you > not wrote them? Or it just happens! :0)) What is this " it just > happens " then? Who is that it just happens? > > Thoughts electric impulse? So life is not a dream then, it is > electric impulses! or maybe life is an electric dream impulse!! How > about that? So if we continue this way are we going to truly find > what life is? the good definition you are saying others to drop? > Life is this, life is that. But without us being life itself??? what > is the purpuse of it, an Ego search? I know you are wiser than your > teachings! What are you scare of? and don't tell me that you are not > scared! The very impulse to control, to teach at all cost shows the > hidden fear of yours. I'm not the only one that sees that! And you > know it. I don't ask a response. I'm just saying that you are more > advanced than your teachings. Why are you scared? > > > Odysseus, P: LOL. Would I bother to explain to a guy who changed his name from Alberto to Odysseus? Dream on, Odysseus! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 >> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> >wrote: > P: LOL. Would I bother to explain to a guy who changed > his name from Alberto to Odysseus? Dream on, Odysseus! ) you still seem to be very dependent on names... cerosoul... so you cannot see the compassion behind those words... you dont need to explain anything... you dont need to defend anything... nobody here has anything against you... come into peace with yourself, Pete. Greetings S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Why are you scared, Odysseus? What's this odyssey if not a lection about how to lose with dignity? A forlorn fight, a lesson in desperation accompained by suffering and pain. What's the weight of all that frenzy mirrored against the countenance of death? Are you scared about your insignificance? Doesn't life take care of itself without being reliant on you? And, how fragile it is in its levity! Coltish and idiosyncratic. Weightless like a dream. Pollenised by the unwitting expression of the Other, as the center of everything, no matter at which remote ocean of stars. There is nothing to gain, here! You are all and that is actually nothing. We resist breath to breath, moment to moment, day by day to the certainity of the absurdity of this game. An instable and restive dream, which, from one second to another could vanish and dissolve into the infinite darkness of the universe. There is a certain arrogance a subtle sense of allmightiness laid in our cradles which we lose and we seek during our whole life. The sense of Self, the I am. The independence of objects. But, how could that which has become an object become independent of itself? There is no way out. The dream is a glueless projection. Desire keeps you alive in the absense of instincts and your desire will never be fulfilled. This yearning can find its counterpart in everything. In the solemnity of a cathedral or the halls of Wall-street. Compassion arises with the apprehension of the futility of such games. The games of Gurus and seekers, virgins and vampires, the interplay of day and night, light and darkness, the face of the mother and its absence. There is a tiger roaming through this ancient forests you have to find. The other tiger, the tiger of your dreams..... become one with him.....and you never will be seen again. Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 > P: LOL. Would I bother to explain to a guy who changed > his name from Alberto to Odysseus? Dream on, Odysseus! ) Odysseus: Look at your smile. How wonderful! How beautiful! You are that smile. Be that smile and you will enter ecstasy. :OOO)) Look how big is my nose!! ha ha ha! The fish, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > Why are you scared, Odysseus? > > Odysseus: I'm scared? I'm scared? of course I'm scared!! :0) I am S. I am C. I am a. I am r. I am e. I am d. = scared!! What a scary thought! If you " know " what scare " is " you will never be scared anymore. R.I.P. Kip, Keep it peaceful! K.I.P. Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > Why are you scared, Odysseus? > > >There is nothing to gain, here! You are all and that > is actually nothing. We resist breath to breath, moment to moment, > day by day to the certainity of the absurdity of this game. An > instable and restive dream, which, from one second to another could > vanish and dissolve into the infinite darkness of the universe. >> > > Kip Almazy That is very true Kip. And that's the problem facing these two characters, Alberto and Stephan. They are desperate to prove they are something. Here, they want to prove they are teachers. They use childish tricks like Homeric names, and criticizing the posts of others. They have not a thing to say, and there is nothing to teach. As you so well said it, " We are the darkness of the universe, " and the pretense of being something else will end one way or the other. We have only two choices, face it now, or at the hour of death. The pursue of the pretense of being something will bring only illusion and suffering. Accept your nothingness and the dream will still go on, but it will not be yours any longer. Just a dream with no power to scare or to hurt. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> > wrote: > > > > Why are you scared, Odysseus? > > > > > >There is nothing to gain, here! You are all and that > > is actually nothing. We resist breath to breath, moment to moment, > > day by day to the certainity of the absurdity of this game. An > > instable and restive dream, which, from one second to another could > > vanish and dissolve into the infinite darkness of the universe. > >> > > > > Kip Almazy > > That is very true Kip. And that's the problem facing these two > characters, Alberto and Stephan. They are desperate to prove they > are something. Here, they want to prove they are teachers. They > use childish tricks like Homeric names, and criticizing the posts > of others. They have not a thing to say, and there is nothing to > teach. As you so well said it, " We are the darkness of the universe, " > and the pretense of being something else will end one way or > the other. We have only two choices, face it now, or at the hour > of death. The pursue of the pretense of being something will bring > only illusion and suffering. Accept your nothingness and the > dream will still go on, but it will not be yours any longer. Just > a dream with no power to scare or to hurt. > > Pete Pete........We don't even have that choice. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: >That is very true Kip. And that's the problem facing these two >characters, Alberto and Stephan. They are desperate to prove they >are something. Here, they want to prove they are teachers. Well, I am a dance teacher... but here... I really have nothing to teach. I am here sitting in the shade of giants like Nisargadatta... what should I have to teach? >They >use childish tricks like Homeric names, and criticizing the posts >of others. I can have another name every day! I can have five names in one day! You are some kind of a name fetishist... arent you? It disturbs you very much if someone changes his name, as it disturbs you if someone quotes a digest by mistake. Relax, Pete. Now my name is Nasrudin. You felt critisized? Opinion is not critique. I want to learn, and I have learned a lot from you. I threw some balls to you, but you did not pick them up. No problem for me. I have learned a lot by throwing them. I thank you for that and this I mean honestly, no cynism here. I have no bad feelings towards anybody here, and there is no impulse to critisize anybody. We all have nothing to say, and still we speak... why do you speak, Pete? To whom do you speak when you post? And what is wrong for you then when I speak? >We have only two choices, face it now, or at the hour >of death. The pursue of the pretense of being something will bring >only illusion and suffering. Accept your nothingness and the >dream will still go on, but it will not be yours any longer. Just >a dream with no power to scare or to hurt. Wow, thank you for this one. You should post more of that stuff!!! Lets face it now... face to face... All the best Nasrudin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> > wrote: > > > > Why are you scared, Odysseus? > > > > > >There is nothing to gain, here! You are all and that > > is actually nothing. We resist breath to breath, moment to moment, day by day Odysseus: You resist day by day, breath to breath, I don't ! to the certainity of the absurdity of this game. Odysseus: It is not absurd to me. An > > instable and restive dream, which, from one second to another could vanish Odysseus: Ohh yes and you are " scared the shit " that is why you use your brain so much to try to control something, you think your brain is goinf to help you!! You ask the wrong person. You brain can't help and you know it! So your done my friend!! and dissolve into the infinite darkness of the universe. Odysseus: The Self is already dissolved in the infinite darkness... You are not your " Self " for sure. Kip Almazy > > That is very true Kip. And that's the problem facing these two > characters, Alberto and Stephan. They are desperate to prove they > are something. Here, they want to prove they are teachers. They > use childish tricks like Homeric names, and criticizing the posts > of others. They have not a thing to say, and there is nothing to > teach. As you so well said it, " We are the darkness of the universe, " and the pretense of being something else will end one way or > the other. We have only two choices, face it now, or at the hour > of death. The pursue of the pretense of being something will bring > only illusion and suffering. Accept your nothingness and the > dream will still go on, but it will not be yours any longer. Just > a dream with no power to scare or to hurt. Odysseus: You are the darkness of the univers I am not!!! Did Jesus say that or Ramana, Maybe Krishna said it ?? man grow up!! Awake! man ! Awake! Pete do you really think that being something is different than " Your " being " nothing " If you say that one who thinks he is something is stupid I tell you that the one who says that he is nothing is as stupid! You " think " you are " nothing " this is the same old song. The opposit of something is nothing which is a choice you defend you are just like the ones you are blasting with your ignorance you are just a bit brighter, just a bit! not much! Not much at all. and you make them believe that you are so good!! It makes me think of Da free john. Adi Da. You a Cyber guru. Don' get me wrong. I'm applying Wu Wei Wu teaching. I'm kiking your butt for your good! You are truly enchanted when you hear your voice hein. Odysseus the Great Great Great! I have added the great! I guess you won't sleep tonight hein!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.