control

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Already Freud observed that the Ego is not the master in its own

home. We have, quite simply, no control. The most we can do is to

entertain the imaginary notion that we have some say in this

management. In having our say we don't change matters at all, since

we give the lie to our words even as we utter them.

 

 

Kip Almazy

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Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy>

wrote:

>

> Already Freud observed that the Ego is not the master in its own

> home.

 

Odysseus: Yes but Freud was a frustrated man. I saw his life on tv.

He was trying to see or understand something. He understood

something and gave us a better idea how life works. That's all.

 

Kip: We have, quite simply, no control.

 

Odysseus: Untrue. You control, then in sadhana you understand that

you don't control nothing then you control again, what Life gives

you the possibility to control. Eg. Who pushed you to write this

posting about no control??? Jesus? Jesus obliged you to post? No You

did. And who are you. Well you need to find who you are. If you park

your car somewhere and feel hate in your heart. Would you say Life

is pure hate, as your last statement. And everyday of your life you

will oblige yourself to hate because this is the decision you made

about reality? You will tell me I don't do that! OH Yes you do. When

you want to freeze life... this happens. You cannot take a picture

of a happy day and say this is life. The Ego likes to do such a

thing. He likes to control etc. That doesn't mean that you cannot

control nothing. When I'm thirsty. " I " choose to drink or not. Don't

worry I understand what you mean. Deconstruction brings you no where

because you are already no where. Yet you are there??? How can we

explain that!!! We can't. Because the Reality is above our thoughts

and concepts etc. I tryed to explain The way to my cat. I think it

is laughing at me??? ha ha ha!

 

Life cannot be catch in a net. Because life is the net! and we are

caught in it Maya. So true Liberation means get out of Maya. The

absolute that(master Nis) talks about. But the problem is that life

is not to be avoided, or to hide. The purpose is not to liberated

from this life... it is to be what we are. " To be " But to be " free "

we must know who we are first.

 

As someone very wise said: You must fist be a pigeon, then you are

free from being a pigeon,

 

But then you come back to be a pigeon because there is nothing

outside of being a pigeon. :0 You were and still are a pigeon. But a

holy pigeon lets says. Ha ha ha! Some won't like this! Holyness :0)

 

When you take position. I am a man. Your dead. When you say I am not

a man. You are dead. When you say I am half a man. You are dead.

When you " are " without thoughts, without hope, without desires you

are in your self. Without a mind.

 

The most we can do is to

> entertain the imaginary notion that we have some say in this

> management.

 

Odysseus: Who says that? the Self or the Ego. It's the Ego. That

constructed self that fear his own shadow. Get rid of him Kip and

you the real Kip will be free. Life is not scared of life. the Ego

is scared of life.

 

 

 

In having our say we don't change matters at all, since

> we give the lie to our words even as we utter them.

 

Odysseus: Nothing changes, True but the Ego changes, evolve,

understands awaken etc. Nothing changes but everything changes all

the time. It is a cosmic dance.

 

 

 

P.S. Cosmic dance? Oups; caught! ;0)

 

Love

Odysseus,

 

> Kip Almazy