Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 There is also a perverse jouissance (enjoyment) in hysterics in " bringing the truth to light " . A classic hysterical position, inscribed in the trenchant Hegelian concept of the " beautiful soul " ; easy to find in " spiritual " circles. Defiance expressed by nostalgia (phallic nostalgia, of course . It is this nostalgia, moreover, which gives hysteria its pervasively spectacular and resounding character. Nostalgic, partly lugubrious, partly wistful scenarios representing poetic dramatizations in a fantasized state of grace. Driven into the corner of its masquerade, it uses to escape in a pirouette, a wordplay, a saw, a dictum. A poem, a joke? Particularly fond of the element of " makebelieve " , it gives her/him a way to undertake and sustain defiance. Mixed, perhaps, with a little obsessional attributes it gives a precious picture. The champion of legality and common sense, the knower of the ultimate truth, the conqueror of the gunas and tamas, fighting and struggling, unknowingly, against his/her desire to transgress. Defiant, stubbornly creating an imaginary situation of adversity, subliminal or manifest, in order to engage in defiance, struggle and fight sometimes, sometimes debates and discussions, to mask, to obscure that it almost always is he/she him/herself, who is throwing down guntlets to him/herself. Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > There is also a perverse jouissance (enjoyment) in hysterics > in " bringing the truth to light " . A classic hysterical position, > inscribed in the trenchant Hegelian concept of the " beautiful soul " ; > easy to find in " spiritual " circles. Defiance expressed by nostalgia > (phallic nostalgia, of course . It is this nostalgia, moreover, > which gives hysteria its pervasively spectacular and resounding > character. Nostalgic, partly lugubrious, partly wistful scenarios > representing poetic dramatizations in a fantasized state of grace. > Driven into the corner of its masquerade, it uses to escape in a > pirouette, a wordplay, a saw, a dictum. A poem, a joke? Particularly > fond of the element of " makebelieve " , it gives her/him a way to > undertake and sustain defiance. Mixed, perhaps, with a little > obsessional attributes it gives a precious picture. The champion of > legality and common sense, the knower of the ultimate truth, the > conqueror of the gunas and tamas, fighting and struggling, > unknowingly, against his/her desire to transgress. Defiant, > stubbornly creating an imaginary situation of adversity, subliminal > or manifest, in order to engage in defiance, struggle and fight > sometimes, sometimes debates and discussions, to mask, to obscure > that it almost always is he/she him/herself, who is throwing down > guntlets to him/herself. > > > > Kip Almazy And your truth too is exposed triumphantly here. Aren't we all doing the same? " me alone is out of the mess and can have an objective look on it from above " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 .... To corroborate something Jung said already clearly in his time (that: " it would be much better, in the view of some thoughtful psychiatrists and neurologists, if the term ehysteriaf were abandoned completely " ): http://www.richardwebster.net/freudandhysteria.html [...] " But although agnosticism about the concept of hysteria has received significant support within the psychiatric profession (particularly in the United States), the problem has by no means been completely resolved. In Britain, and in some parts of continental Europe, hysteria is still referred to as though it were a distinct syndrome in a number of psychiatric textbooks, and some neurologists, psychiatrists and physicians still believe that the concept is a useful one. In its current usage the term ehysteriaf bears almost no relationship to its original meaning. For it no longer refers to a disorder of the womb. Instead it is used to refer to any symptom or any abnormal pattern of behaviour for which there is no apparent organic pathology and which is therefore believed to be a product of emotional distress, anxiety or some other psychological cause. Those who propose that hysteria might be an entirely unnecessary concept readily accept that it is sometimes difficult to find an organic pathology behind certain physical symptoms. They merely suggest that, since the term ehysteriaf does not refer to any specific or definable disease, it is a sham-diagnosis rather than a real one. If all patients who appear to be suffering from physical symptoms but who have no detectable organic pathology are to be dubbed ehystericalf then, they argue, the concept of hysteria becomes so broad and so vague as to be quite meaningless. Hysteria, in effect, ceases to be the very specific disease entity it was always historically considered to be, and becomes merely a negative assertion about the nature of certain symptoms. The adjective ehystericalf is therefore used as though it were a synonym for enon- organicf or epsychogenicf. At the same time, however, quite inconsistently, the noun ehysteriaf is used as though it referred still to a positive disease-entity and patients are actually said to be esuffering from hysteriaf. Since, in the current usage of the concept, this is tantamount to claiming that a particular patient is suffering from physical symptoms which cannot be explained, it would be much better, in the view of some thoughtful psychiatrists and neurologists, if the term ehysteriaf were abandoned completely. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 > And your truth too is exposed triumphantly here. > Aren't we all doing the same? > " me alone is out of the mess and can have an objective look on it > from above " . ROFL! Exactly, Eric, advanced (self) trickery...... And that's why I think, it is important to have a " real " job additionally, unless of course, you want to go " professional " ....hmm, the market seems to be already almost saturated by the ol' foxes and chiselers. It's easier, I guess, to become an artist.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > > And your truth too is exposed triumphantly here. > > Aren't we all doing the same? > > " me alone is out of the mess and can have an objective look on it > > from above " . > > > > > ROFL! Exactly, Eric, advanced (self) trickery...... And that's why I > think, it is important to have a " real " job additionally, unless of > course, you want to go " professional " ....hmm, the market seems to be > already almost saturated by the ol' foxes and chiselers. It's > easier, I guess, to become an artist.... I'm like you i do my tricks just for the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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