Fw: [JK] choiceless awareness/to Assi

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Nisargadatta , " Nirgunananda "

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> Nirgunananda

> J_Krishnamurti

> Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:02 PM

> Re: [JK] choiceless awareness/to Assi

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> Hi Siebe and Assi

> I was seeing yours concepts about de awareness and I would like to

explain my knowledge about Self, Awareness, objective consciousness

and mind/ego.

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> The Self

> is knowledge of " myself " , but myself without ego, pure awareness

only.The Self is self satisfied and do not need do anything.

> We can have the " sense " of Self when we understand that the Self is

the perception of " being " in plenitude that is: to be, and have the

consciousness of being forever and happiness for having the

consciousness of being forever. " Sat Chitt ananda "

> We with de consciousness in the Self " in ourselves " without no

objective consciousness is awareness, because awareness is abstract

consciousness, then:

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> Awareness

> is abstract consciousness: no images, no thoughts, no quality, no

attachment, no identification, the only identification is with the

perception of " being in plenitude " without no necessity of anything.

The awarenees is the Supreme Reality.

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> Objective consciousness

> Is the consciousness of the objects, images, forms that we see.

> When the mind sees the objects made by her, is not she that see, is

the objective consciousness that see by her part named witness,

because there is attention on seeing.

> If the object is present in the mind, but the observer " witness " no,

then there is not the objective consciousness, there is only awareness

that is consciousness of the being, pure being, not of that object

that is within the mind. Then objective consciousness is the contact

of the mind with de object within herself but, with the witness. The

witness is the action of observing the objects, images, forms.

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> Mind/ego

> Mind is the tool to build all the things that are ready within the

Self. As all the things are ready within the Self, then the Self is

self satisfied and do not need do anything. But like all the things

are no ready within the mind, then the mind is not self satisfied.

> Ego is all the creation of the mind as thoughts, objects, images, forms.

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> RESUME

> As the Self is self satisfied and do not need do anything, then in

the moment that we are satisfied, we are the Self. When We are not

satisfied we are in domination of the mind, We are attached by desire

or fear.

> As we can see is very simple the play.

> The awareness " the consciousness in the Self " is the Supreme

Reality. When we get these concepts we become the Supreme Reality and

we know that in the Reality there is not to do, in the mind all appear

and desappear and nothing is.

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> If you have any questions please put it lovely.

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> Best Regards

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> So Ham

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> Swami Nirgunananda

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Hi Nirgunananda

 

If I understand this correct, then awareness is consciousness without

attachment to objects (thoughts, images, sense perceptions, emotions e

t c). But in awareness there is still the awareness of these objects

even though there is no attachment to them, is it not?

 

Could we say that " myself " is attachment to _personal_ objects in past

and future, and that the Self is attachment to _all_ objects as they

are in the present moment?

 

/AL