Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Hi Dan, I remember K said about dreaming that one only has dreams if the problems occuring during the day aren't totally solved and so the braing tries to solve them during sleep. I think his concern was not to stop people from dreaming but rather to point at the drainage of energy because he often said " you need tremendous energy to understand the meaning of life " or " solve every problem as it comes " . Werner Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Anders, > > > > > > When reading years ago that question of K and his following > > > statement, I too was startled because I never before have > questioned > > > it. Yet in the meantime I made friends with the idea that only a > > > fragmented mind which is not whole could have a structure of > parts > > > which are not conscious and which is called the unconscious (by > > > analysts which too suffer from the same fragmentation). > > > > > > And his statement that the analyser is the analysed did attract > lots > > > of psychogists to K's meetings and discussions. > > > > > > Werner > > > > Yes, dreams for example, may come from the unconscious. The funny > > thing is that K said that when your mind is whole there will be no > > need for dreams. Ramesh Balsekar didn't like what K said about not > > having dreams. :-) > > I think that K didn't remember his dreams and they weren't > important to him. I've known lots of people who say > they don't have dreams, but if they start attending to > their waking sensations closely, they start to pick up > some fragments of dreams. > > Research in laboratories over and over again, shows that > the brain waves associated with dreaming occur for > everyone, without exception, during REM phases > of sleep. I think it's an important > function of the human brain, and is appropriate. I don't > think that anyone deals with everything while they are > awake, nor should they. > > I think Krishnamurti was mixing his metaphors, i.e., the > metaphor of being awake and no longer in illusion (dream), > with his brain functions. > > By the way, Krishnamurti was also known for the statement > " they are operating on my brain, they are operating on my > brain, " at times when he had some kind of unusual sensations > in his head that were painful and upsetting to him. > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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