Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 what is " advaita in action " !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Nisargadatta , " aramisna " <aramisna> wrote: > > > > > > what is " advaita in action " !? ******************************* More thinking and more understanding of each little ridicule detail that life can make us understand. And when we understand that there is nothing to understand, " Advaita in action " means to speed up the mind, But very very fast. Until it hurts! :0) Then one is very happy of its own understanding and can say tah he is above God etc. This is also called Super enlightenment, or web sites enlightenment. Which is " prior " or " below " Liberation. You choose. Enlightenment for all. You choose, you decide. Easy, nothing to do! Instant! Only 2.69$ at Wall-Mart! Just press here { }. P.S. Oh I forgot. " advaita in action " !? is when you understand your mind fully, and you give yourself the right to spit on Bhakti Yoga, and Karma Yoga. And to say that there is nothing to do. Stuff like that. :ox Odysseus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " aramisna " <aramisna> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > what is " advaita in action " !? > ******************************* > More thinking and more understanding of each little ridicule detail > that life can make us understand. And when we understand that there > is nothing to understand, " Advaita in action " means to speed up the > mind, But very very fast. Until it hurts! :0) Then one is very happy > of its own understanding and can say tah he is above God etc. > > This is also called Super enlightenment, or web sites enlightenment. > Which is " prior " or " below " Liberation. You choose. > > Enlightenment for all. You choose, you decide. Easy, nothing to do! > Instant! Only 2.69$ at Wall-Mart! Just press here { }. > > P.S. Oh I forgot. " advaita in action " !? is when you understand your > mind fully, and you give yourself the right to spit on Bhakti Yoga, > and Karma Yoga. And to say that there is nothing to do. Stuff like > that. > > :ox > Odysseus, ======================= Thanks Odysseus for taking the time to reflect, I appreciate it. Discipline and Advaita: http://home.wanadoo.nl/prembuddha/e.advai.html The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita: http://home.wanadoo.nl/prembuddha/aziz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Nima " <nima_alikhani> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " > <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " aramisna " <aramisna> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is " advaita in action " !? > > ******************************* > > More thinking and more understanding of each little ridicule > detail > > that life can make us understand. And when we understand that > there > > is nothing to understand, " Advaita in action " means to speed up > the > > mind, But very very fast. Until it hurts! :0) Then one is very > happy > > of its own understanding and can say tah he is above God etc. > > > > This is also called Super enlightenment, or web sites > enlightenment. > > Which is " prior " or " below " Liberation. You choose. > > > > Enlightenment for all. You choose, you decide. Easy, nothing to > do! > > Instant! Only 2.69$ at Wall-Mart! Just press here { }. > > > > P.S. Oh I forgot. " advaita in action " !? is when you understand > your > > mind fully, and you give yourself the right to spit on Bhakti > Yoga, > > and Karma Yoga. And to say that there is nothing to do. Stuff like > > that. > > > > :ox > > Odysseus, > > ======================= > > > > Thanks Odysseus for taking the time to reflect, I appreciate it. > > > Discipline and Advaita: > http://home.wanadoo.nl/prembuddha/e.advai.html > > The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita: > http://home.wanadoo.nl/prembuddha/aziz.html Dear Odysseus, thank you for the comment... and dear Nima thank you for the helpful links... " An idea that is developed and put into action is more important than an idea that exists only as an idea " . ---Buddha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 <nima_alikhani> wrote: > The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita: > http://home.wanadoo.nl/prembuddha/aziz.html thanks for posting this Nima metta, Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 > Thanks Odysseus for taking the time to reflect, I appreciate it. ***************************************** The site is absolutly great Nima, this link below should be red by everybody in all spiritual forums. Great and true. I specially love some statements there: Site: We would like also to create a few practical anti-pseudo-advaita statements: 'You are not awakened unless you awaken!' 'You are not That, ' 'There is no Path but only for those who Completed it!' 'There is nobody here, but only when somebody has dissolved! Until that time you are simply a suffering somebody who only tries to believe in being no one or entertains oneself by giving 'satsang.' > The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita: > http://home.wanadoo.nl/prembuddha/aziz.html Beautiful, great, You should come here more often Nima. We could at least learn something! Love, Odysseus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " aramisna " <aramisna> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Nima " <nima_alikhani> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " > > <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " aramisna " <aramisna> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is " advaita in action " !? > > > ******************************* > > > More thinking and more understanding of each little ridicule > > detail > > > that life can make us understand. And when we understand that > > there > > > is nothing to understand, " Advaita in action " means to speed up > > the > > > mind, But very very fast. Until it hurts! :0) Then one is very > > happy > > > of its own understanding and can say tah he is above God etc. > > > > > > This is also called Super enlightenment, or web sites > > enlightenment. > > > Which is " prior " or " below " Liberation. You choose. > > > > > > Enlightenment for all. You choose, you decide. Easy, nothing to > > do! > > > Instant! Only 2.69$ at Wall-Mart! Just press here { }. > > > > > > P.S. Oh I forgot. " advaita in action " !? is when you understand > > your > > > mind fully, and you give yourself the right to spit on Bhakti > > Yoga, > > > and Karma Yoga. And to say that there is nothing to do. Stuff > like > > > that. > > > > > > :ox > > > Odysseus, > > > > ======================= > > > > > > > > Thanks Odysseus for taking the time to reflect, I appreciate it. > > > > > > Discipline and Advaita: > > http://home.wanadoo.nl/prembuddha/e.advai.html > > > > The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita: > > http://home.wanadoo.nl/prembuddha/aziz.html > > > Dear Odysseus, thank you for the comment... and dear Nima thank you > for the helpful links... > > " An idea that is developed and put into action is more important > than an idea that exists only as an idea " . ---Buddha Does this mean that Pseudo-advaita put into action is more important than only as an idea? And what is pseudo-advaita other than 'what is', i.e. isn't pseudo-advaita also advaita? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 > " An idea that is developed and put into action is more important > than an idea that exists only as an idea " . ---Buddha Hi Aramisna, An interesting quote. There is another quote, also atributed to Buddha, which I like. Parafrasing, did Buddha said, asked about what is sin, that everything, which is unneccessary, is sin. I agree with the above statement partially. It mirrors, perhaps, the critique you and many others could have on advaita. Advaita Vedanta has not been institutionalised and it has no rigid philosophical scaffold and therefore, in my opinion, a less dogmatic character. There are no vows to take nor has it underlying and rigid moral and ethical structures and, actually, no hierarchy. Somehow anarchistic. This can be surely frightening. Nonduality is an integral part of buddhistic philosophical notions. I would state that nonduality has found different forms in manifesting itself. The idea of nonduality expressed as Buddhism, Taoism, Avaita Vedanta or whatever. It can't be monopolised. It is to find in sophist, presocratic notions as well as in christian dialectics or the pantheism of german romanticism. A-dvait is a concept with many different dialectics. Due to this, it is always in action or, if you like it better, never in action. The verbalism " Advaita in action " is somehow redundant. What would denote, for example, " politics in action " , " buddhism in action " , " altruism in action " , " compassion in action " ? Would that mean, automatically, to do something meaningful? It sounds to me like a shibboleth. Isn't it easier to ask someone directly for help. And, helping someone with no matter what, isn't it a strange drive to do that under the umbrella of a notion, concept or -ism. Is that neccessary? rgds Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > > " An idea that is developed and put into action is more important > > than an idea that exists only as an idea " . ---Buddha > > > > Hi Aramisna, > > > An interesting quote. There is another quote, also atributed to > Buddha, which I like. Parafrasing, did Buddha said, asked about what > is sin, that everything, which is unneccessary, is sin. > > I agree with the above statement partially. It mirrors, perhaps, the > critique you and many others could have on advaita. Advaita Vedanta > has not been institutionalised and it has no rigid philosophical > scaffold and therefore, in my opinion, a less dogmatic character. > There are no vows to take nor has it underlying and rigid moral and > ethical structures and, actually, no hierarchy. Somehow anarchistic. > This can be surely frightening. > > Nonduality is an integral part of buddhistic philosophical notions. > I would state that nonduality has found different forms in > manifesting itself. The idea of nonduality expressed as Buddhism, > Taoism, Avaita Vedanta or whatever. It can't be monopolised. It is > to find in sophist, presocratic notions as well as in christian > dialectics or the pantheism of german romanticism. > > A-dvait is a concept with many different dialectics. Due to this, it > is always in action or, if you like it better, never in action. The > verbalism " Advaita in action " is somehow redundant. What would > denote, for example, " politics in action " , " buddhism in > action " , " altruism in action " , " compassion in action " ? Would that > mean, automatically, to do something meaningful? It sounds to me > like a shibboleth. Isn't it easier to ask someone directly for help. > And, helping someone with no matter what, isn't it a strange drive > to do that under the umbrella of a notion, concept or -ism. Is that > neccessary? So why do we need to refer to the name Advaita at all, as if we sought authority throught it, ... Advaita denotes a tradition, books, and well-known masters; Wikipedia: " Advaita Vedanta is probably the best known of all Vedanta schools of Hinduism, the others being Dvaita and Vishishtadvaita. Advaita literally means " not two " , and is often called a monistic or non-dualistic system which essentially refers to the indivisibility of the Self (Atman) from the Whole (Brahman). The key texts from which all Vedanta texts draw are the Upanishads (especially twelve or thirteen in particular), which are commentaries on the Vedas, and the Brahma Sutras (also known as Vedanta Sutras), which is in turn a work discussing the essence of the Upanishads. " > > > rgds > Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 So why do we need to refer to the name Advaita at all, as if we sought authority throught it, ... Advaita denotes a tradition, books, and well-known masters; Wikipedia:.... Hi Eric, It is a dialectic, a tool. Someone, who has understood the dialectic doesn't actually need anymore to proclaim himself/herself as an authority. Self proclaimed teachers are everywhere to find, even self proclaimed surgeons are to find, LOL! To seek authority through it might be a stage, a phase; it only denotes that the dialectic hasn't been understood properly. A sage is just a little more than a teacher, perhaps, just kidding, because he actually would be prefer to be left alone and in peace, chopping wood and carrying water. rgds Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > So why do we need to refer to the name Advaita at all, as if we > sought authority throught it, ... Advaita denotes a tradition, > books, and well-known masters; Wikipedia:.... > > > > Hi Eric, > > It is a dialectic, a tool. Someone, who has understood the dialectic > doesn't actually need anymore to proclaim himself/herself as an > authority. Self proclaimed teachers are everywhere to find, even > self proclaimed surgeons are to find, LOL! To seek authority through > it might be a stage, a phase; it only denotes that the dialectic > hasn't been understood properly. A sage is just a little more than a > teacher, perhaps, just kidding, because he actually would be prefer > to be left alone and in peace, chopping wood and carrying water. i agree, the tools still smells of cultural gathering in the name of the merciless loneliness of a quest. > > > rgds > Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " <ericparoissien@g...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy> wrote: > > > > So why do we need to refer to the name Advaita at all, as if we > > sought authority throught it, ... Advaita denotes a tradition, > > books, and well-known masters; Wikipedia:.... > > > > > > > > Hi Eric, > > > > It is a dialectic, a tool. Someone, who has understood the dialectic > > doesn't actually need anymore to proclaim himself/herself as an > > authority. Self proclaimed teachers are everywhere to find, even > > self proclaimed surgeons are to find, LOL! To seek authority through > > it might be a stage, a phase; it only denotes that the dialectic > > hasn't been understood properly. A sage is just a little more than a > > teacher, perhaps, just kidding, because he actually would be prefer > > to be left alone and in peace, chopping wood and carrying water. > > i agree, the tools still smells of cultural gathering in the name of > the merciless loneliness of a quest. some little voice in the back of the audience will say: " of course you guys speak about Advaita because Europe has not been able to come up with something that measures up " .... which is so totally uncool! > > > > > > > rgds > > Kip Almazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 To see inaction in Action and action in inaction is Adwaitha in action . To do anything and ask " who is the doer ? " is Advaitha in action. To enquire really if there is a doer and the enjoyer of fruits therien is Advaitha in Action. Regards, Murali, aramisna [aramisna] Friday, January 07, 2005 10:48 PM Nisargadatta what is!!? what is " advaita in action " !? ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > To see inaction in Action and action in inaction is Adwaitha in action . > To do anything and ask " who is the doer ? " is Advaitha in action. > To enquire really if there is a doer and the enjoyer of fruits therien is Advaitha in Action. > Regards, > Murali, > > > aramisna [aramisna] > Friday, January 07, 2005 10:48 PM > Nisargadatta > what is!!? > > what is " advaita in action " !? ************************************************** AAhhh! Murali, Your answer is like music to my ears, delightful. Love Odysseus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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