Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 From book I AM THAT by Nisargadatta LIVING IS LIFE´S OLY PURPOSE ....... Q - You can not save the world by preaching counsels of perfection. People are as they are. Must they suffer? M - As long as they are as they are, there is no escape from suffering. Remove the sense of separateness and there will be no conflit. Q - A message in print may be papaer and ink only. It is the text that matters. By analyzing the world into elements and qualities we miss the most import - its meaning. Your reduction of everything to dream disregards the difference between the dream of an insect and the dream of a poet. All is dream granted. But not all are equal. M - The dreams are not equal, but the dreamer is one. I am the insect. I am the poet - in dream. But in reality I am neither. I am beyond all dreams. I am the light in which all dreams appear and desappear. I am both inside and ouside the dream. Just as a man having headache knows the ache and also knows that he is not the ache, so do I know the dream, myself dreaming and myself not dreaming - all the same time. I am what I am berofe, during and after the dream. But what I see in dream, I am not. Namastê Nirgunananda Grupos, um serviço oferecido por: -- Links do Grupos a.. Para visitar o site do seu grupo na web, acesse: http://br.SatsangNirav/ b.. Para sair deste grupo, envie um e-mail para: SatsangNirav- c.. O uso que você faz do Grupos está sujeito aos Termos do Serviço do . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Nirgunananda " <nirgunananda@t...> wrote: > > > From book I AM THAT by Nisargadatta > > LIVING IS LIFE´S OLY PURPOSE > > > ...... > Q - You can not save the world by preaching counsels of perfection. People are as they are. Must they suffer? > > M - As long as they are as they are, there is no escape from suffering. Remove the sense of separateness and there will be no conflit. > > Q - A message in print may be papaer and ink only. It is the text that matters. By analyzing the world into elements and qualities we miss the most import - its meaning. Your reduction of everything to dream disregards the difference between the dream of an insect and the dream of a poet. All is dream granted. But not all are equal. > > M - The dreams are not equal, but the dreamer is one. I am the insect. I am the poet - in dream. But in reality I am neither. I am beyond all dreams. I am the light in which all dreams appear and desappear. I am both inside and ouside the dream. Just as a man having headache knows the ache and also knows that he is not the ache, so do I know the dream, myself dreaming and myself not dreaming - all the same time. I am what I am berofe, during and after the dream. But what I see in dream, I am not. > > > Namastê > Nirgunananda ************************************* M. Nis: The dreams are not equal, but the dreamer is one. I am the insect. I am the poet - in dream. But in reality I am neither. I am beyond all dreams. I am the light in which all dreams appear and desappear. I am both inside and ouside the dream. Just as a man having headache knows the ache and also knows that he is not the ache, so do I know the dream, myself dreaming and myself not dreaming - all the same time. I am what I am berofe, during and after the dream. But what I see in dream, I am not. Odysseus: Master Nis is talking about what he knows. What he feels. What he understands. It is not mere speculation. It is pure knowledge. Knowledge acquired by effort, understanding, satsangs with his master, darshan etc. Years of trainning the mind to see better, etc. He says he " trusted " his master. He is so true and real. a great master! Namaste to Master Nis, Odysseus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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