The Levels Of Consciousness - the Supture

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Nisargadatta , " leorozum " <leorozum>

wrote:

> Leonid Rozumenko

>

> The Levels Of Consciousness - the Supture

>

> As once was said by Rene Descartes - " I think, therefore I exist! "

 

1- The thinking process, or thoughts, seem to be our profound

nature. But it is not. You may think if I stop thinking, I no longer

exist! But The masters don't think. They act, they do. They can

think, but don't need the thoughts anymore, at least as much as most

people do.

 

When the master say the One mind beyond thinking, what they mean is

beyond the thoughts process. Not mind beyond mind! But you are right

you are still in the mind as in the One mind, non-dual perception

etc. but you don't think.

 

The thoughts process is vital for the ego survival purpuses. When

the ego dies or is fully seen as the false Self, then the thoughts

process can finally stop. Not before. It cannot.

 

So we say I cannot stop thinking. I think all the time. What Am I

going to do today. Think and think and think. It cannot stop. Only

few second for advanced meditation practitioners.

 

But truly we don't need thoughts for Identification but only for

need purposes. If you ask a master. hey buddy 2+2=? He will use his

thoughts and " think " well, Humm, 2+2= is humm well it is 4.

Then he stops his thinking process, to nothing. No thoughts at all.

Like the elephant in Werner's post. He will remain there in the non-

thinking process until the next question. Or the next thoughts need.

There is nothing mecanical, but natural. Why? because we don't need

thoughts for identification purpuses. Only the ego needs them. a

huge part of the Ego is the thought process it self. as in the

example above: " I think, therefore I exist! " In that expression

Descarte shows his own level of understanding;

in other words : If I don't think I don't exist. Which is absolutly

false.

Animals live. :0) Masters too!

 

 

Odysseus,