Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 " Question: How can I tell if I am making progress with my enquiry? Sri Ramana Maharshi: The degree of the absence of thoughts is the measure of your progress towards Self-realisation. But Self-realisation itself does not admit of progress, it is ever the same. The Self remains always in realisation. The obstacles are thoughts. Progress is measured by the degree of removal of the obstacles to understanding that the Self is always realised. So thoughts must be checked by seeking to whom they arise. So you go to their source, where they do not arise. " http://www.hinduism.co.za/self-enq.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > " Question: How can I tell if I am making progress with my enquiry? > > Sri Ramana Maharshi: The degree of the absence of thoughts is the > measure of your progress towards Self-realisation. But > Self-realisation itself does not admit of progress, it is ever the > same. The Self remains always in realisation. The obstacles are > thoughts. Progress is measured by the degree of removal of the > obstacles to understanding that the Self is always realised. So > thoughts must be checked by seeking to whom they arise. So you go to > their source, where they do not arise. " > > http://www.hinduism.co.za/self-enq.htm ********************************** A man thought he was a frog all his life. When he will truly fully understand, not just intellectually but with all his body/mind/heart that he is a man. That being a man is his true, uncause condition. He will awaken to his very profound, eternal, uncaused, non-created life-spirit, Reality. He will Realise... he is a man. And he will have tea with Ramana. Odysseus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > " Question: How can I tell if I am making progress with my enquiry? > > > > Sri Ramana Maharshi: The degree of the absence of thoughts is the > > measure of your progress towards Self-realisation. But > > Self-realisation itself does not admit of progress, it is ever the > > same. The Self remains always in realisation. The obstacles are > > thoughts. Progress is measured by the degree of removal of the > > obstacles to understanding that the Self is always realised. So > > thoughts must be checked by seeking to whom they arise. So you go > to > > their source, where they do not arise. " > > > > http://www.hinduism.co.za/self-enq.htm > > ********************************** > > A man thought he was a frog all his life. When he will truly fully > understand, not just intellectually but with all his body/mind/heart > that he is a man. That being a man is his true, uncause condition. > He will awaken to his very profound, eternal, uncaused, non- created > life-spirit, Reality. He will Realise... he is a man. And he will > have tea with Ramana. > > Odysseus, devi: theres no one here who thinks he/she is a frog and most everyone here realized that they were a man or woman lifetimes ago , its time to realize the Self... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: >devi: theres no one here who thinks he/she is a frog and most >everyone here realized that they were a man or woman lifetimes ago , >its time to realize the Self... yes, its always time... but as long as we do not realize the Self we think we are frogs. Or even worse: we think we become human by giving the name " human " to the characteristics of a frog... and the tragedy is that in reality we are not nor have we ever been frogs (or any other characterisics). And I guess you understand that instead of " frog " you also could say " sheep " or " worm " or " xyz " . And instead of " man " (in that story) you could say " Self " . Greetings S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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