Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 In a message dated 1/13/05 3:05:16 AM, wwoehr writes: Hi Werner P: It's very hard for one who has a stake in the belief of such entities as gurus and disciples, for one who is only seeking to cheat personal death in whatever imagined shape or form, to accept that. Fools love to be fooled, and gurus, those peddlers of good news, reap the profits. ) **** > W: I my understanding there is no observer and never was one. The > observer is the observed, no matter if one calls it the world or mind > or thought. The " observer " is an illusion caused by thought > separating itself from the content of consciouseness without > realizing that it is itself just another content again. This not > realizing being just another content of consciousness, so an object, > causes the illusion of being the subject in relation to objects. > > So it doesn't matter if there is a thought arising taking the > position of the observer in relation to the seen. The seen is the > seen, constantly changing and the world is the world with or without > an illussionary observer. > > The content remains the same, if thought separates itself from it > taking the position of being the (illusionary) subject, or if it > doesn't. > > Werner > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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