The Information Revolution (accepting to feel good)

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Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote:

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> > The more I observe the control in me, the more horrible it gets. I

> > understand why people are afraid. I understand why I myself am afraid.

> > My hope is that this understanding will make me peaceful. When I am

> > peaceful, the world will be peaceful.

> >

> > /AL

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> Anders, I experience regularly no thought or thinking with thoughts and

> concepts. I am able to have thought and not to have thought as is

> needed. The experience is something like this: all of me is moving

> always. There is an interior sense in the body that is directly

> connected to the five senses that directly enters the interior so that

> what ever is seen stimulates interior movements and sensations; very

> subtle movements and sensations to not subtle movements and sensations

> depending on what is seen and experienced. There is no thought, just

> these unknown, unmarked movements and sensations. That is my daily

> experience.

>

> Lewis

 

We're all on a spectrum from agitated to quite peaceful, the aim of

spirituality is to find peace, nothing else, spirituality is another

aim in life, not the ultimate, one of them, like raising children

decently, professionally feeling good, ... or you could say that this

feeling right and good in every actions and thoughts is spirituality

(like accepting the weird sides of my sexuality or accepting that i

don't accept the way i am), and this can be achieved when there is no

desire to achieve or become anyone else anymore, and life goes on

unadulterated, without me thinking what it could have been, what it

should be...

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Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien "

<ericparoissien@g...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote:

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> ...

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> > >

> > > The more I observe the control in me, the more horrible it gets. I

> > > understand why people are afraid. I understand why I myself am

afraid.

> > > My hope is that this understanding will make me peaceful. When I am

> > > peaceful, the world will be peaceful.

> > >

> > > /AL

> >

> > Anders, I experience regularly no thought or thinking with

thoughts and

> > concepts. I am able to have thought and not to have thought as is

> > needed. The experience is something like this: all of me is moving

> > always. There is an interior sense in the body that is directly

> > connected to the five senses that directly enters the interior so

that

> > what ever is seen stimulates interior movements and sensations; very

> > subtle movements and sensations to not subtle movements and

sensations

> > depending on what is seen and experienced. There is no thought, just

> > these unknown, unmarked movements and sensations. That is my daily

> > experience.

> >

> > Lewis

>

> We're all on a spectrum from agitated to quite peaceful, the aim of

> spirituality is to find peace, nothing else, spirituality is another

> aim in life, not the ultimate, one of them, like raising children

> decently, professionally feeling good, ... or you could say that this

> feeling right and good in every actions and thoughts is spirituality

> (like accepting the weird sides of my sexuality or accepting that i

> don't accept the way i am), and this can be achieved when there is no

> desire to achieve or become anyone else anymore, and life goes on

> unadulterated, without me thinking what it could have been, what it

> should be...

 

This is a group thing that seems top poison our life, this

spirituality is a group thing, our friction to the world and our body

is informed by what the group said we should have been expecting from

a body from a life... we have a cultural disease of having opinions on

this moment and spirituality is part of the disease.

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Eric Paroissien wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote:

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> ...

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> > >

> > > The more I observe the control in me, the more horrible it gets. I

> > > understand why people are afraid. I understand why I myself am afraid.

> > > My hope is that this understanding will make me peaceful. When I am

> > > peaceful, the world will be peaceful.

> > >

> > > /AL

> >

> > Anders, I experience regularly no thought or thinking with thoughts and

> > concepts. I am able to have thought and not to have thought as is

> > needed. The experience is something like this: all of me is moving

> > always. There is an interior sense in the body that is directly

> > connected to the five senses that directly enters the interior so that

> > what ever is seen stimulates interior movements and sensations; very

> > subtle movements and sensations to not subtle movements and sensations

> > depending on what is seen and experienced. There is no thought, just

> > these unknown, unmarked movements and sensations. That is my daily

> > experience.

> >

> > Lewis

>

> We're all on a spectrum from agitated to quite peaceful, the aim of

> spirituality is to find peace, nothing else, spirituality is another

> aim in life, not the ultimate, one of them, like raising children

> decently, professionally feeling good, ... or you could say that this

> feeling right and good in every actions and thoughts is spirituality

> (like accepting the weird sides of my sexuality or accepting that i

> don't accept the way i am), and this can be achieved when there is no

> desire to achieve or become anyone else anymore, and life goes on

> unadulterated, without me thinking what it could have been, what it

> should be...

 

Yes. It is going on as it is. If in what I am doing there is wonder and

question, then thoughts appear making sense of the movements and

sensations as to what these movements and sensations are. The same

sensations or movements seem to be able to be colored with different

thoughts, interpretations, even contradictory ones and there then is a n

eventual settling to the one that allows me to move unrestricted,

unperplexed. These interpretations range from the bizarre to the

pleasant to the perplexed but it seems that I settle to something that

allows me to go on and I go whatever seems to be the fit at the time.

There does not seem to be a single state with all of this, just

movements and sensations, variously experienced through interpretations

that allow me to go and a capability to don whatever interpretive

clothes is necessary to go in situations of complexity.

 

There seems to be no state preferable. There is adjustment and

adjustment that occurs as I live. There seems to be no path or rhyme or

reason to it.

 

Lewis