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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...>

wrote:

>

> I'm just guessing........but I'll bet that Nisargadatta didn't

have a lot of problems with women followers.

>

> toombaru

 

** Well, neither did Rock Hudson.

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Nisargadatta , " Era " <n0ndual@w...> wrote:

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

> " When all the false self-identifications are thrown away, what

remains

> is all-embracing love. "

>

> ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

>

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

> Era

>

>

> .

 

yes, but this 'love' is very different than

our dualistic view of love, including as it

does those we 'hate' in our dualistic view.

 

this love is without the 'desires' and 'attachments'

for/to those we 'love' in the dualistic world.

 

this love knows not 'passion' for one above all others.

 

this love includes your mother and your sibling.

this love includes the rapist and the victim.

this love includes the murderer and the nun.

 

yes, this love is nothing like our dualistic view of love.

 

enjoy,

clay

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> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> >

> " When all the false self-identifications are thrown away, what

> remains

> is all-embracing love. "

>

> ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

> >

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> >

> > Era

> >

> >

> > .

>

> yes, but this 'love' is very different than

> our dualistic view of love, including as it

> does those we 'hate' in our dualistic view.

>

 

 

I'm not sure, that 'hate' is the right.

 

Arjuna did not 'hate' the enemy.

 

Jesus, who attacked the merchants at the temple felt no hate either.

 

I'm attacking what I preceive to be attcked wihout feeling any hate, or remorse.

 

Attack happens. Hate is a dark feeling.

 

 

 

 

> this love is without the 'desires' and 'attachments'

> for/to those we 'love' in the dualistic world.

>

> this love knows not 'passion' for one above all others.

>

> this love includes your mother and your sibling.

> this love includes the rapist and the victim.

> this love includes the murderer and the nun.

>

> yes, this love is nothing like our dualistic view of love.

>

> enjoy,

> clay

 

love, Era

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Clay " <clay.spencer@v...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " Era " <n0ndual@w...> wrote:

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> >

> > " When all the false self-identifications are thrown away, what

> remains

> > is all-embracing love. "

> >

> > ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

> >

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> >

> > Era

> >

> >

> > .

>

> yes, but this 'love' is very different than

> our dualistic view of love, including as it

> does those we 'hate' in our dualistic view.

>

> this love is without the 'desires' and 'attachments'

> for/to those we 'love' in the dualistic world.

>

> this love knows not 'passion' for one above all others.

>

> this love includes your mother and your sibling.

> this love includes the rapist and the victim.

> this love includes the murderer and the nun.

>

> yes, this love is nothing like our dualistic view of love.

>

> enjoy,

> clay

 

 

 

Do you mean that it includes every kind of love except the dual kind?

 

 

 

toombaru

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> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> >

> " When all the false self-identifications are thrown away, what

> remains

> is all-embracing love. "

>

> ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

> >

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> >

> > Era

> >

> >

> > .

>

> yes, but this 'love' is very different than

> our dualistic view of love, including as it

> does those we 'hate' in our dualistic view.

>

 

 

I'm not sure, that 'hate' is the right.

 

Arjuna did not 'hate' the enemy.

 

Jesus, who attacked the merchants at the temple felt no hate either.

 

I'm attacking what I preceive to be attcked wihout feeling any hate, or remorse.

 

Attack happens. Hate is a dark feeling.

 

 

 

 

> this love is without the 'desires' and 'attachments'

> for/to those we 'love' in the dualistic world.

>

> this love knows not 'passion' for one above all others.

>

> this love includes your mother and your sibling.

> this love includes the rapist and the victim.

> this love includes the murderer and the nun.

>

> yes, this love is nothing like our dualistic view of love.

>

> enjoy,

> clay

 

love, Era

 

 

..

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Nisargadatta , " Era " <n0ndual@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > >

> > " When all the false self-identifications are thrown away, what

> > remains

> > is all-embracing love. "

> >

> > ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

> > >

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > >

> > > Era

> > >

> > >

> > > .

> >

> > yes, but this 'love' is very different than

> > our dualistic view of love, including as it

> > does those we 'hate' in our dualistic view.

> >

>

>

> I'm not sure, that 'hate' is the right.

>

> Arjuna did not 'hate' the enemy.

>

> Jesus, who attacked the merchants at the temple felt no hate either.

>

> I'm attacking what I preceive to be attcked wihout feeling any hate, or

remorse.

>

> Attack happens. Hate is a dark feeling.

 

 

 

Ya gotta hate that hate stuff.....huh?

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " Era " <n0ndual@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > >

> > " When all the false self-identifications are thrown away, what

> > remains

> > is all-embracing love. "

> >

> > ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

> > >

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > >

> > > Era

> > >

> > >

> > > .

> >

> > yes, but this 'love' is very different than

> > our dualistic view of love, including as it

> > does those we 'hate' in our dualistic view.

> >

>

>

> I'm not sure, that 'hate' is the right.

>

> Arjuna did not 'hate' the enemy.

>

> Jesus, who attacked the merchants at the temple felt no hate

either.

>

> I'm attacking what I preceive to be attcked wihout feeling any

hate, or remorse.

>

> Attack happens. Hate is a dark feeling.

 

 

era,

yes, you are right.

 

note that I didn't say the all-encompassing love

includes 'hate', just that

it included those people whom we 'hate' in the

dualistic world.

 

the all encompassing love does not distinguish

between those whom we love (in duality) and those

whom we hate (in duality).

 

and this all-encompassing love can only exist

when we see all beings equally - as One...with

absolutely NO distinction

 

make sense?

clay

 

 

 

>

>

>

>

> > this love is without the 'desires' and 'attachments'

> > for/to those we 'love' in the dualistic world.

> >

> > this love knows not 'passion' for one above all others.

> >

> > this love includes your mother and your sibling.

> > this love includes the rapist and the victim.

> > this love includes the murderer and the nun.

> >

> > yes, this love is nothing like our dualistic view of love.

> >

> > enjoy,

> > clay

>

> love, Era

>

>

> .

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Nisargadatta , " Era " <n0ndual@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > >

> > " When all the false self-identifications are thrown away, what

> > remains

> > is all-embracing love. "

> >

> > ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

> > >

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > >

> > > Era

> > >

> > >

> > > .

> >

> > yes, but this 'love' is very different than

> > our dualistic view of love, including as it

> > does those we 'hate' in our dualistic view.

> >

>

>

> I'm not sure, that 'hate' is the right.

>

> Arjuna did not 'hate' the enemy.

>

> Jesus, who attacked the merchants at the temple felt no hate

either.

>

 

you are right,

 

note that I did not say that 'hate' is included in all encompassing

love,

but rather, that all those whom we hate (in our dualistic world).

 

in the all encompassing love there are no distinctions - all

are 'loved' equally. if not - and distinctions are made - we are

thinking dualistically.

 

clay

 

 

 

> I'm attacking what I preceive to be attcked wihout feeling any

hate, or remorse.

>

> Attack happens. Hate is a dark feeling.

>

>

>

>

> > this love is without the 'desires' and 'attachments'

> > for/to those we 'love' in the dualistic world.

> >

> > this love knows not 'passion' for one above all others.

> >

> > this love includes your mother and your sibling.

> > this love includes the rapist and the victim.

> > this love includes the murderer and the nun.

> >

> > yes, this love is nothing like our dualistic view of love.

> >

> > enjoy,

> > clay

>

> love, Era

>

>

> .

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Whatever we identify ourselves with should be thrown away. All-

embracing love is all that remains after we do this. To embrace

our " enemies " and love them means to have no enemies.

 

LW

 

Nisargadatta , " Era " <n0ndual@w...> wrote:

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

> " When all the false self-identifications are thrown away, what

remains

> is all-embracing love. "

>

> ~Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

>

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

> Era

>

>

> .

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