Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Liberation is freedom from suffering, all forms of suffering. Physical pain and emotional suffering has to go, has to be obliterated. Physical pain is conflict on the material level. Emotional suffering is conflict on the level of thought. Both are related. What to do? Recognize the suffering in you and let it burn itself up - all of it. How? Know that all there is is now. Freedom is now, and suffering is now. Choose freedom. Choose freedom now, not in the future. There cannot be any freedom in the future. Your intellect will tell you that the future is important. In this way your suffering will continue. Is the future unimportant? No. The future is neither important nor unimportant. What is important is how you relate to the future. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Liberation is freedom from suffering, all forms of suffering. Physical > pain and emotional suffering has to go, has to be obliterated. > Physical pain is conflict on the material level. Emotional suffering > is conflict on the level of thought. Both are related. > > What to do? Recognize the suffering in you and let it burn itself up - > all of it. How? Know that all there is is now. Freedom is now, and > suffering is now. Choose freedom. Choose freedom now, not in the > future. There cannot be any freedom in the future. Your intellect will > tell you that the future is important. In this way your suffering will > continue. Is the future unimportant? No. The future is neither > important nor unimportant. What is important is how you relate to the > future. > > /AL you talk like a preacher AL, do you mean you are liberated and on a mission to liberate the crowds or yo formulate it as to rehearse for yourself and see if it holds the test of the merciless debators on this list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " <ericparoissien@g...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Liberation is freedom from suffering, all forms of suffering. Physical > > pain and emotional suffering has to go, has to be obliterated. > > Physical pain is conflict on the material level. Emotional suffering > > is conflict on the level of thought. Both are related. > > > > What to do? Recognize the suffering in you and let it burn itself up - > > all of it. How? Know that all there is is now. Freedom is now, and > > suffering is now. Choose freedom. Choose freedom now, not in the > > future. There cannot be any freedom in the future. Your intellect will > > tell you that the future is important. In this way your suffering will > > continue. Is the future unimportant? No. The future is neither > > important nor unimportant. What is important is how you relate to the > > future. > > > > /AL > > you talk like a preacher AL, do you mean you are liberated and on a > mission to liberate the crowds or yo formulate it as to rehearse for > yourself and see if it holds the test of the merciless debators on > this list? By all means Eric, bring on your wisdom. I just wanted to write some stuff to see what would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " > <ericparoissien@g...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Liberation is freedom from suffering, all forms of suffering. Physical > > > pain and emotional suffering has to go, has to be obliterated. > > > Physical pain is conflict on the material level. Emotional suffering > > > is conflict on the level of thought. Both are related. > > > > > > What to do? Recognize the suffering in you and let it burn itself up - > > > all of it. How? Know that all there is is now. Freedom is now, and > > > suffering is now. Choose freedom. Choose freedom now, not in the > > > future. There cannot be any freedom in the future. Your intellect will > > > tell you that the future is important. In this way your suffering will > > > continue. Is the future unimportant? No. The future is neither > > > important nor unimportant. What is important is how you relate to the > > > future. > > > > > > /AL > > > > you talk like a preacher AL, do you mean you are liberated and on a > > mission to liberate the crowds or yo formulate it as to rehearse for > > yourself and see if it holds the test of the merciless debators on > > this list? > > By all means Eric, bring on your wisdom. I just wanted to write some > stuff to see what would happen. i approve this, i do the same, i don't deal with introverted thoughts when they stick, i submit them to the wisdom of the crowds instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " <ericparoissien@g...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " > > <ericparoissien@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Liberation is freedom from suffering, all forms of suffering. > Physical > > > > pain and emotional suffering has to go, has to be obliterated. > > > > Physical pain is conflict on the material level. Emotional suffering > > > > is conflict on the level of thought. Both are related. > > > > > > > > What to do? Recognize the suffering in you and let it burn > itself up - > > > > all of it. How? Know that all there is is now. Freedom is now, and > > > > suffering is now. Choose freedom. Choose freedom now, not in the > > > > future. There cannot be any freedom in the future. Your > intellect will > > > > tell you that the future is important. In this way your > suffering will > > > > continue. Is the future unimportant? No. The future is neither > > > > important nor unimportant. What is important is how you relate > to the > > > > future. > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > you talk like a preacher AL, do you mean you are liberated and on a > > > mission to liberate the crowds or yo formulate it as to rehearse for > > > yourself and see if it holds the test of the merciless debators on > > > this list? > > > > By all means Eric, bring on your wisdom. I just wanted to write some > > stuff to see what would happen. > > i approve this, i do the same, i don't deal with introverted thoughts > when they stick, i submit them to the wisdom of the crowds instead. I think it is good to stick one's nose out so that one can observe the response and one's reactions to that response. Like: " hey, look at my ego, how strong it is.....and ooups! how very scared I am in the tender depths of my own heart. " /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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