Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 LOL. Lewis, is the memory of what he wrote. The seeker thinks there is such a thing as truth in the form of eternal knowledge to be had, but all knowledge depends on memory, the pseudo entity who seeks, is itself an illusion of memory, without memory we are not. Meaning itself, the very notion, " I am that " has no meaning without memory. And memory is physical ... and very perishable. What was I saying? ) But The question is, who, Lewis, think he is? Is he coming out of the guru closet? What do you think? I, for one, accept every one as my teacher, and need no special one. One is as good as the other, that which speaks has no preference for any particular microphone. Pete > I......see......you > > ~freyja Lewis: Do you see me as I am, indefinable, or in my guises and identities, in the many songs I sing, in the many voices that speak? Am I clear to you or do you see me as being messy in what I assume to be here to speak in the ways that can be done? Am I transparent and clearly away from that which I put on? Can you hear me through it all? Do I seem lost in an identity or am I clear and free to you now? Is my voice without shade, does it sing that unknown song you know well in the fibre of your being? I see you looking out, calling and do you see me now looking into you as you which I am? Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " <ericparoissien@g...> wrote: > > Lewis > " Some of you may know me, but I am not what you may think. I assume any > identity as required. If I am here, I assume the identity of an arch > deconstructionist. What I am is indefinable, but I assume as required. > > If you wish to hear the voice and persona of the arch > deconstructionist that I can assume, be forewarned, for there will be > no mercy whatsoever. There is no malice or ill intent, only compassion > in an iron fist. So tread here and face squarely all that is. " > > i'm terrified! i'm amused. this guy is funny. watch out, Eric - he may deconstruct you with a single e-mail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 In a message dated 1/25/05 10:15:53 AM, ericparoissien writes: > -- In Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > LOL. Lewis, is the memory of what he wrote. The seeker thinks there is > > such a thing as truth in the form of eternal knowledge to be had, > > but all knowledge depends on memory, the pseudo entity who seeks, > > is itself an illusion of memory, without memory we are not. > Meaning itself, > > the very notion, " I am that " has no meaning without memory. > > And memory is physical ... and very perishable. What was I > saying? ) > > > > But The question is, who, Lewis, think he is? Is he coming out of > the guru > > closet? What do you think? I, for one, accept every one as my teacher, > > and need no special one. One is as good as the other, that which speaks > > has no preference for any particular microphone. > > > > Pete > > Eric: >I have too much germanic blood, to me people are who they are,> > P: Can you think of a more silly statement to make, or that was your best try for the day? > > Eric: >some people > on this list or others trusted me and been trusted with international > transfer of money for bought > >goods, > P: Oh! That was even more silly and irrelevant, sorry. > > > E: > i don't > >need to know everything ... > P: Hmm, that was even sillier. Don't worry you won't > > > (what is Freyja's text doing here below?) > P: Sorry you didn't see the answer to your question that Lewis was poetically suggesting to Freyja. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > LOL. Lewis, is the memory of what he wrote. The seeker thinks there is > such a thing as truth in the form of eternal knowledge to be had, > but all knowledge depends on memory, the pseudo entity who seeks, > is itself an illusion of memory, without memory we are not. Meaning itself, > the very notion, " I am that " has no meaning without memory. > And memory is physical ... and very perishable. What was I saying? ) > > But The question is, who, Lewis, think he is? Is he coming out of the guru > closet? What do you think? I, for one, accept every one as my teacher, > and need no special one. One is as good as the other, that which speaks > has no preference for any particular microphone. > > Pete I have too much germanic blood, to me people are who they are, they tell their name and what they do, and what they want and make everything clear, i can't separate a real interaction with his persona on the net, for example i have trusted (and been trusted) some people on this list or others with international transfer of money for bought goods, i'm not into the play of actors, i like the fun but i'm not playing a video game where all people can be whacked or created as i go. Still i can talk with a girl posing as a boy and vice-versa, i don't need to know everything ... (what is Freyja's text doing here below?) > > > > > I......see......you > > > > ~freyja > > > Lewis: Do you see me as I am, indefinable, or in my guises and identities, in > the many songs I sing, in the many voices that speak? Am I clear to you > or do you see me as being messy in what I assume to be here to speak in > the ways that can be done? Am I transparent and clearly away from that > which I put on? Can you hear me through it all? Do I seem lost in an > identity or am I clear and free to you now? Is my voice without shade, > does it sing that unknown song you know well in the fibre of your being? > I see you looking out, calling and do you see me now looking into you as > you which I am? > > Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dabo_now " <dscasta> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " > <ericparoissien@g...> wrote: > > > > Lewis > > " Some of you may know me, but I am not what you may think. I assume > any > > identity as required. If I am here, I assume the identity of an arch > > deconstructionist. What I am is indefinable, but I assume as > required. > > > > If you wish to hear the voice and persona of the arch > > deconstructionist that I can assume, be forewarned, for there will > be > > no mercy whatsoever. There is no malice or ill intent, only > compassion > > in an iron fist. So tread here and face squarely all that is. " > > > > i'm terrified! > > > i'm amused. > > this guy is funny. > > > watch out, Eric - he may deconstruct you with a single e-mail! It was an excess, Lewis is not habitually like this, two days ago my daughter (4years old) told me with a dark look: " i'm stronger than you i'm gonna smash you! " ... we have the archetype of the destructor invading us when chemistry is diverted and overloads feeding back into the primal brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Eric Paroissien wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dabo_now " <dscasta> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " > > <ericparoissien@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Lewis > > > " Some of you may know me, but I am not what you may think. I assume > > any > > > identity as required. If I am here, I assume the identity of an arch > > > deconstructionist. What I am is indefinable, but I assume as > > required. > > > > > > If you wish to hear the voice and persona of the arch > > > deconstructionist that I can assume, be forewarned, for there will > > be > > > no mercy whatsoever. There is no malice or ill intent, only > > compassion > > > in an iron fist. So tread here and face squarely all that is. " > > > > > > i'm terrified! > > > > > > i'm amused. > > > > this guy is funny. > > > > > > watch out, Eric - he may deconstruct you with a single e-mail! > > It was an excess, Lewis is not habitually like this, two days ago my > daughter (4years old) told me with a dark look: " i'm stronger than you > i'm gonna smash you! " ... > we have the archetype of the destructor invading us when chemistry is > diverted and overloads feeding back into the primal brains. As the Arch Deconstructor, I am going to deconstruct you Eric, till your bones rattle in your skin bag, till your teeth shake loose with your trembling. What you thought was excess was only a dribbling of what is to come for you. For, exposing the masked avenger, for revealing the damnable plans, avenging must be done as you have said as it is always done. With your words, you have invoked the Arch Deconstructor, who shows no mercy and there is a fiery hell with a door that has your name upon it where you will enter that blazing furnace and will pay what is required. You never know when it will come upon you so realize the inevitable for you will not be able to prepare for it, it comes without your knowing. Arch Deconstructor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/25/05 10:15:53 AM, ericparoissien@g... writes: > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > LOL. Lewis, is the memory of what he wrote. The seeker thinks there is > > > such a thing as truth in the form of eternal knowledge to be had, > > > but all knowledge depends on memory, the pseudo entity who seeks, > > > is itself an illusion of memory, without memory we are not. > > Meaning itself, > > > the very notion, " I am that " has no meaning without memory. > > > And memory is physical ... and very perishable. What was I > > saying? ) > > > > > > But The question is, who, Lewis, think he is? Is he coming out of > > the guru > > > closet? guru closet, Pete? So, now there's a closet for gurus?! I thought those were only for skeletons. <<What do you think? I, for one, accept every one as my teacher, > > > and need no special one. One is as good as the other, that which speaks > > > has no preference for any particular microphone. > > > that's right, whatever is right in front of you. f. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: .... > > As the Arch Deconstructor, I am going to deconstruct you Eric, till your > bones rattle in your skin bag, till your teeth shake loose with your > trembling. What you thought was excess was only a dribbling of what is > to come for you. For, exposing the masked avenger, for revealing the > damnable plans, avenging must be done as you have said as it is always > done. With your words, you have invoked the Arch Deconstructor, who > shows no mercy and there is a fiery hell with a door that has your name > upon it where you will enter that blazing furnace and will pay what is > required. You never know when it will come upon you so realize the > inevitable for you will not be able to prepare for it, it comes without > your knowing. > > Arch Deconstructor In my experience it takes a keen interest into someone to be able to try what you say above... some intimacy with his core knot, some identity even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Eric Paroissien wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > ... > > > > > As the Arch Deconstructor, I am going to deconstruct you Eric, till > your > > bones rattle in your skin bag, till your teeth shake loose with your > > trembling. What you thought was excess was only a dribbling of what is > > to come for you. For, exposing the masked avenger, for revealing the > > damnable plans, avenging must be done as you have said as it is always > > done. With your words, you have invoked the Arch Deconstructor, who > > shows no mercy and there is a fiery hell with a door that has your name > > upon it where you will enter that blazing furnace and will pay what is > > required. You never know when it will come upon you so realize the > > inevitable for you will not be able to prepare for it, it comes without > > your knowing. > > > > Arch Deconstructor > > In my experience it takes a keen interest into someone to be able to > try what you say above... some intimacy with his core knot, some > identity even. It is as you say, identity, but not in the way imagined. Arch Deconstruction already proceeds apace. As it is beyond ordinary thinking and so you need not prepare or have concern for all is known in every way, all the secrets and fears and defenses are being worked on so turn away. You invoked it and it will be done. Arch Deconstructor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > Eric Paroissien wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > > > As the Arch Deconstructor, I am going to deconstruct you Eric, till > > your > > > bones rattle in your skin bag, till your teeth shake loose with your > > > trembling. What you thought was excess was only a dribbling of what is > > > to come for you. For, exposing the masked avenger, for revealing the > > > damnable plans, avenging must be done as you have said as it is always > > > done. With your words, you have invoked the Arch Deconstructor, who > > > shows no mercy and there is a fiery hell with a door that has your name > > > upon it where you will enter that blazing furnace and will pay what is > > > required. You never know when it will come upon you so realize the > > > inevitable for you will not be able to prepare for it, it comes without > > > your knowing. > > > > > > Arch Deconstructor > > > > In my experience it takes a keen interest into someone to be able to > > try what you say above... some intimacy with his core knot, some > > identity even. > > > It is as you say, identity, but not in the way imagined. Arch > Deconstruction already proceeds apace. As it is beyond ordinary thinking > and so you need not prepare or have concern for all is known in every > way, all the secrets and fears and defenses are being worked on so turn > away. You invoked it and it will be done. > > Arch Deconstructor I wrote my mail, i had a first coffee, the archdeconstructor at 6:30, then a light breakfast, the first kid wakes up, you know ... the usual, what is a human life made of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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