Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Because of silence everything exists. But we don't listen to silence because our ears are full of the chatter of the mind. When you believe you love, or that you are realizing the ideal, there is no silence, because thought makes of the eternal silence a plaything of the social, of the games of envy, culture and the gods put together by the mind and the hand. Silence is when you are, openly in yourself and beside yourself, without demand or frustration to achieve. Silence has no social value whatsoever, it never seeks to impress or influence, to guide or control. J. Krishnamurti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Because of silence everything exists. But > we don't listen to silence because our ears > are full of the chatter of the mind. > > When you believe you love, or that you are > realizing the ideal, there is no silence, > because thought makes of the eternal silence > a plaything of the social, of the games of > envy, culture and the gods put together by > the mind and the hand. > > Silence is when you are, openly in > yourself and beside yourself, without demand > or frustration to achieve. Silence has no > social value whatsoever, it never seeks to > impress or influence, to guide or control. > > J. Krishnamurti That `sounds' Nice ! However, ...anything that `sounds' is ...NOT Silence! ....even if, it's name was J. Krishnamurthy! Even, if he was `approved' by many people. .. .... ...... The world may not overly value, `Silence', ...but the real question is .....WHY? ...... .... .. Death similarly might be quite beautiful, blissful and serene but the world may not value it tremendously. Similarly for ...Sleep! The `world' may not value a person `overly' just because he ...Sleeps a lot! ....just because, maybe he keeps sleeping all the time, maybe waking up only to ...eat, drink... " World " may not value `no effort', `surrender', `acceptance' ...Too Much !!! But, the real question is ...Why ? and, ...should it ? can it ? .. .... ...... `Just' Silence .... ....is it end of the `world' or does it propagate ... " the World " ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > > > Because of silence everything exists. But > > we don't listen to silence because our ears > > are full of the chatter of the mind. > > > > When you believe you love, or that you are > > realizing the ideal, there is no silence, > > because thought makes of the eternal silence > > a plaything of the social, of the games of > > envy, culture and the gods put together by > > the mind and the hand. > > > > Silence is when you are, openly in > > yourself and beside yourself, without demand > > or frustration to achieve. Silence has no > > social value whatsoever, it never seeks to > > impress or influence, to guide or control. > > > > J. Krishnamurti > > > That `sounds' Nice ! > > However, ...anything that `sounds' is ...NOT Silence! > ...even if, it's name was J. Krishnamurthy! > > Even, if he was `approved' by many people. One of my criticisms of K was that he was overly serious and really believed what he said. I find I can't really be serious, believe anything I say. The words coming out -- splashing in the bathtub -- and the toddler wants a quiet, silent bathtub, but keeps splashing with words. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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