Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I will here give you a view about what thinking is and how it can be transcended. Thinking operates on the level of labels. A label is a concept, a word, an image, a memory, an emotion. A label is a thing that exists as a seemingly separate entity. Labels are formed in the mind by the act of focusing on a certain area of what is. Like a cookie cutter, the mind creates a boundary, a virtual separation between the label and the rest of what is. Thus it is the boundary that defines a label. The creation of such boundary is not an easy task - it requires heavy computation. To get a clear label, a precise and meaningful boundary has to be created. When the mind creates a label it invests a lot of effort into creating such precise boundary. The resulting label is a final boundary that makes up a meaningful structure for the context in which it was created. If the context itself is final, then such label producing process would be concise and clearly defined. However, the context is everything that is and that context is ever changing, is always in a state of flux. This means that the mind has to keep producing labels, and reorganizing a vast number of stored labels continuously in order to fit the collective map of labels consistent with reality. Here we see the problem with the thinking process: the mind can never keep up with the ever changing context of what is. Therefore the mind is in a constant state of struggle. Recognizing this inherent limitation in thought creates the seed for higher knowledge. What higher knowledge? The higher knowledge is the transcension of thought. When the mind operates on the level of what is instead of with labels about what is, then there is a direct and conflictfree knowledge which we can call higher knowledge, where the boundary producing process has been replaced by a direct, clear and simple awareness of what is. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > I will here give you a view about what thinking is and how it can be > transcended. Thinking operates on the level of labels. A label is a > concept, a word, an image, a memory, an emotion. A label is a thing > that exists as a seemingly separate entity. > > Labels are formed in the mind by the act of focusing on a certain area > of what is. Like a cookie cutter, the mind creates a boundary, a > virtual separation between the label and the rest of what is. Thus it > is the boundary that defines a label. The creation of such boundary is > not an easy task - it requires heavy computation. To get a clear > label, a precise and meaningful boundary has to be created. > > When the mind creates a label it invests a lot of effort into creating > such precise boundary. The resulting label is a final boundary that > makes up a meaningful structure for the context in which it was > created. If the context itself is final, then such label producing > process would be concise and clearly defined. However, the context is > everything that is and that context is ever changing, is always in a > state of flux. This means that the mind has to keep producing labels, > and reorganizing a vast number of stored labels continuously in order > to fit the collective map of labels consistent with reality. > > Here we see the problem with the thinking process: the mind can never > keep up with the ever changing context of what is. Therefore the mind > is in a constant state of struggle. Recognizing this inherent > limitation in thought creates the seed for higher knowledge. What > higher knowledge? The higher knowledge is the transcension of thought. > When the mind operates on the level of what is instead of with labels > about what is, then there is a direct and conflictfree knowledge which > we can call higher knowledge, where the boundary producing process has > been replaced by a direct, clear and simple awareness of what is. > > /AL Lap cannot transcend standing up. Fist cannot transcend opening. Wind cannot transcend motion. River cannot transcend flowing. Mind cannot transcend duality. toombaru toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > I will here give you a view about what thinking is and how it can be > > transcended. Thinking operates on the level of labels. A label is a > > concept, a word, an image, a memory, an emotion. A label is a thing > > that exists as a seemingly separate entity. > > > > Labels are formed in the mind by the act of focusing on a certain area > > of what is. Like a cookie cutter, the mind creates a boundary, a > > virtual separation between the label and the rest of what is. Thus it > > is the boundary that defines a label. The creation of such boundary is > > not an easy task - it requires heavy computation. To get a clear > > label, a precise and meaningful boundary has to be created. > > > > When the mind creates a label it invests a lot of effort into creating > > such precise boundary. The resulting label is a final boundary that > > makes up a meaningful structure for the context in which it was > > created. If the context itself is final, then such label producing > > process would be concise and clearly defined. However, the context is > > everything that is and that context is ever changing, is always in a > > state of flux. This means that the mind has to keep producing labels, > > and reorganizing a vast number of stored labels continuously in order > > to fit the collective map of labels consistent with reality. > > > > Here we see the problem with the thinking process: the mind can never > > keep up with the ever changing context of what is. Therefore the mind > > is in a constant state of struggle. Recognizing this inherent > > limitation in thought creates the seed for higher knowledge. What > > higher knowledge? The higher knowledge is the transcension of thought. > > When the mind operates on the level of what is instead of with labels > > about what is, then there is a direct and conflictfree knowledge which > > we can call higher knowledge, where the boundary producing process has > > been replaced by a direct, clear and simple awareness of what is. > > > > /AL > > > > > Lap cannot transcend standing up. > Fist cannot transcend opening. > Wind cannot transcend motion. > River cannot transcend flowing. > Mind cannot transcend duality. > > > > toombaru > We must be careful of how we define mind. Mind cannot transcend mind, but the process of thinking can perhaps be transcended. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > I will here give you a view about what thinking is and how it can be > > > transcended. Thinking operates on the level of labels. A label is a > > > concept, a word, an image, a memory, an emotion. A label is a thing > > > that exists as a seemingly separate entity. > > > > > > Labels are formed in the mind by the act of focusing on a certain area > > > of what is. Like a cookie cutter, the mind creates a boundary, a > > > virtual separation between the label and the rest of what is. Thus it > > > is the boundary that defines a label. The creation of such boundary is > > > not an easy task - it requires heavy computation. To get a clear > > > label, a precise and meaningful boundary has to be created. > > > > > > When the mind creates a label it invests a lot of effort into creating > > > such precise boundary. The resulting label is a final boundary that > > > makes up a meaningful structure for the context in which it was > > > created. If the context itself is final, then such label producing > > > process would be concise and clearly defined. However, the context is > > > everything that is and that context is ever changing, is always in a > > > state of flux. This means that the mind has to keep producing labels, > > > and reorganizing a vast number of stored labels continuously in order > > > to fit the collective map of labels consistent with reality. > > > > > > Here we see the problem with the thinking process: the mind can never > > > keep up with the ever changing context of what is. Therefore the mind > > > is in a constant state of struggle. Recognizing this inherent > > > limitation in thought creates the seed for higher knowledge. What > > > higher knowledge? The higher knowledge is the transcension of thought. > > > When the mind operates on the level of what is instead of with labels > > > about what is, then there is a direct and conflictfree knowledge which > > > we can call higher knowledge, where the boundary producing process has > > > been replaced by a direct, clear and simple awareness of what is. > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > Lap cannot transcend standing up. > > Fist cannot transcend opening. > > Wind cannot transcend motion. > > River cannot transcend flowing. > > Mind cannot transcend duality. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > We must be careful of how we define mind. Mind cannot transcend mind, > but the process of thinking can perhaps be transcended. > > /AL Oh Al.....that's just another thought. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > I will here give you a view about what thinking is and how it can be > > > > transcended. Thinking operates on the level of labels. A label is a > > > > concept, a word, an image, a memory, an emotion. A label is a thing > > > > that exists as a seemingly separate entity. > > > > > > > > Labels are formed in the mind by the act of focusing on a certain area > > > > of what is. Like a cookie cutter, the mind creates a boundary, a > > > > virtual separation between the label and the rest of what is. Thus it > > > > is the boundary that defines a label. The creation of such boundary is > > > > not an easy task - it requires heavy computation. To get a clear > > > > label, a precise and meaningful boundary has to be created. > > > > > > > > When the mind creates a label it invests a lot of effort into creating > > > > such precise boundary. The resulting label is a final boundary that > > > > makes up a meaningful structure for the context in which it was > > > > created. If the context itself is final, then such label producing > > > > process would be concise and clearly defined. However, the context is > > > > everything that is and that context is ever changing, is always in a > > > > state of flux. This means that the mind has to keep producing labels, > > > > and reorganizing a vast number of stored labels continuously in order > > > > to fit the collective map of labels consistent with reality. > > > > > > > > Here we see the problem with the thinking process: the mind can never > > > > keep up with the ever changing context of what is. Therefore the mind > > > > is in a constant state of struggle. Recognizing this inherent > > > > limitation in thought creates the seed for higher knowledge. What > > > > higher knowledge? The higher knowledge is the transcension of thought. > > > > When the mind operates on the level of what is instead of with labels > > > > about what is, then there is a direct and conflictfree knowledge which > > > > we can call higher knowledge, where the boundary producing process has > > > > been replaced by a direct, clear and simple awareness of what is. > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lap cannot transcend standing up. > > > Fist cannot transcend opening. > > > Wind cannot transcend motion. > > > River cannot transcend flowing. > > > Mind cannot transcend duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > We must be careful of how we define mind. Mind cannot transcend mind, > > but the process of thinking can perhaps be transcended. > > > > /AL > > > > > Oh Al.....that's just another thought. > > > toombaru For you maybe.......I am unplugging from the machinery of the Matrix... :-) /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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