Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > In order to understand what an idea is, understand this: money is > merely an idea. > > /AL As a wise friend once said to me, what is not an idea? PEACE E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , " ericlonline " <ericlonline> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > In order to understand what an idea is, understand this: money is > > merely an idea. > > > > /AL > > As a wise friend once said to me, > what is not an idea? > > PEACE > > E As is witten in A Course in Miracles, Lesson 34: I could see peace instead of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ericlonline " <ericlonline> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > In order to understand what an idea is, understand this: money is > > > merely an idea. > > > > > > /AL > > > > As a wise friend once said to me, > > what is not an idea? > > > > PEACE > > > > E > > As is witten in A Course in Miracles, Lesson 34: I could see peace > instead of this Sweet idea AL!! :-) PEACE E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ericlonline " <ericlonline> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > In order to understand what an idea is, understand this: money is > > > merely an idea. > > > > > > /AL > > > > As a wise friend once said to me, > > what is not an idea? > > > > PEACE > > > > E > > As is witten in A Course in Miracles, Lesson 34: I could see peace > instead of this As is written in A Course in Dissociation, Lesson 1, it's better to see something else instead of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ericlonline " > <ericlonline> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > In order to understand what an idea is, understand this: money > is > > > > merely an idea. > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > As a wise friend once said to me, > > > what is not an idea? > > > > > > PEACE > > > > > > E > > > > As is witten in A Course in Miracles, Lesson 34: I could see peace > > instead of this > > As is written in A Course in Dissociation, Lesson 1, it's > better to see something else instead of this. The first lesson in A Course in Miracles is not much different than your lesson in Dissociation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > As is witten in A Course in Miracles, Lesson 34: I could see peace > > > instead of this > > > > As is written in A Course in Dissociation, Lesson 1, it's > > better to see something else instead of this. > > The first lesson in A Course in Miracles is not much different than > your lesson in Dissociation. Clearly, that was my point. So, stop dissociating and know truth! :-) -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Until u pay Tax anders_lindman [anders_lindman] Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:25 AM Nisargadatta Money as an idea In order to understand what an idea is, understand this: money is merely an idea. /AL ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > Until u pay Tax > > The belief.....is the tax. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > Until u pay Tax Paying tax is a _feeling_, but that is also only an idea, one could say. Everything that has to do with the future are only ideas. To really see for oneself that the future is only an idea is the beginning of the waking up from the dream of thought. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > t. Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so simple when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected around your inner free self. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > Until u pay Tax > > Paying tax is a _feeling_, but that is also only an idea, one could > say. Everything that has to do with the future are only ideas. To > really see for oneself that the future is only an idea is the > beginning of the waking up from the dream of thought. > > /AL You can't wake up........To awaken is to disappear. No one in your dream last night will ever wake up...... It's time to give all that ideation up...... toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > > > t. > > Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so simple > when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected around > your inner free self. > > /AL There is no inner free self................The so called self....IS the prison. (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > Paying tax is a _feeling_, but that is also only an idea, one could > > say. Everything that has to do with the future are only ideas. To > > really see for oneself that the future is only an idea is the > > beginning of the waking up from the dream of thought. > > > > /AL > > > > You can't wake up........To awaken is to disappear. > > No one in your dream last night will ever wake up...... > > > It's time to give all that ideation up...... > > > toombaru True! You are absolutely correct. What is it that will wake up? My memories? Can my memories wake up? LOL! Meditate on this I will. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > > > > > t. > > > > Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so simple > > when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected around > > your inner free self. > > > > /AL > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called self....IS the prison. > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > toombaru Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called self....IS > the prison. > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > toombaru > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > /AL That's another nice belief. If there's no self, how's there a prison? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so simple > > > when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected around > > > your inner free self. > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called self....IS > the prison. > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > toombaru > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > /AL You're just being nice to me...aren't you?......OK...I like nice......... I like it when people agree with me......I grow....expand.......feel good.......... toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " josesiem " <josesiem> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called > self....IS > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > /AL > > That's another nice belief. > > If there's no self, how's there a prison? > > Joe there isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " josesiem " <josesiem> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called > self....IS > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > /AL > > That's another nice belief. > > If there's no self, how's there a prison? > > Joe If there is no self, then the REAL You are OUT of the prison! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so simple > > > > when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected around > > > > your inner free self. > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called self....IS > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > /AL > > > > You're just being nice to me...aren't you?......OK...I like nice......... > > > > I like it when people agree with me......I grow....expand.......feel good.......... > > > > toombaru YES! That't it. To really feel the ego and know that it is just a coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so > simple > > > > > when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected > around > > > > > your inner free self. > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called self....IS > > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > You're just being nice to me...aren't you?......OK...I like > nice......... > > > > > > > > I like it when people agree with me......I grow....expand.......feel > good.......... > > > > > > > > toombaru > > YES! That't it. To really feel the ego and know that it is just a coat. Ok.....an empty coat. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so > > simple > > > > > > when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected > > around > > > > > > your inner free self. > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called self....IS > > > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > You're just being nice to me...aren't you?......OK...I like > > nice......... > > > > > > > > > > > > I like it when people agree with me......I grow....expand.......feel > > good.......... > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > YES! That't it. To really feel the ego and know that it is just a coat. > > > > Ok.....an empty coat. > > > t. Feel the ego as a bunch of thoughts, no more, no less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " josesiem " <josesiem> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called > > self....IS > > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > > > /AL > > > > That's another nice belief. > > > > If there's no self, how's there a prison? > > > > Joe > > If there is no self, then the REAL You are OUT of the prison! Cool --- Paarrtttaayyyy!!!! Okay, AL, I hate to break it to you, but there is no self. Now what are you going to break free from? What will you do w all your time and energy when not fretting about freeing yourself? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > \(GE > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so > > > simple > > > > > > > when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected > > > around > > > > > > > your inner free self. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called > self....IS > > > > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're just being nice to me...aren't you?......OK...I like > > > nice......... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like it when people agree with me......I grow....expand.......feel > > > good.......... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > YES! That't it. To really feel the ego and know that it is just a > coat. > > > > > > > > Ok.....an empty coat. > > > > > > t. > > Feel the ego as a bunch of thoughts, no more, no less. Well....that's the rub.........There would have to be some thing....outside of the " ego " to see that..........and....there isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " josesiem " <josesiem> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " josesiem " <josesiem> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called > > > self....IS > > > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > That's another nice belief. > > > > > > If there's no self, how's there a prison? > > > > > > Joe > > > > If there is no self, then the REAL You are OUT of the prison! > > Cool --- Paarrtttaayyyy!!!! > > Okay, AL, I hate to break it to you, but there is no self. > > Now what are you going to break free from? > > What will you do w all your time and energy when not fretting about > freeing yourself? > > Joe There _is_ a self, and that is what I experience as a contraction in me. There is also a Self, which is beingness freed from the prison of contraction and conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > > \(GE > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Until u pay Tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The belief.....is the tax. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, future tax is a belief, and past tax is a memory. It's so > > > > simple > > > > > > > > when you begin to really see the prison that has been erected > > > > around > > > > > > > > your inner free self. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no inner free self................The so called > > self....IS > > > > > > the prison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I hope you are reading this stuff Al....It's really good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, toombaru, the self is the prison. How utterly lovely! > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're just being nice to me...aren't you?......OK...I like > > > > nice......... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like it when people agree with me......I grow....expand.......feel > > > > good.......... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > YES! That't it. To really feel the ego and know that it is just a > > coat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok.....an empty coat. > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > Feel the ego as a bunch of thoughts, no more, no less. > > > Well....that's the rub.........There would have to be some thing....outside of the " ego " to see > that..........and....there isn't. What is intuition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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