Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 In a message dated 2/4/05 8:46:10 AM, lbb10 writes: LOL! Are those two the top of the spiritual food chain, or is there a fiercer predator lurking in the shadows? ) Pete > Prasangikas (zeroisnis persistisis) > > Identifiable Coverings: A robe and cloak made of the fabric emptiness, > dependent origination, and tetralemma, and a mantle made of the > interweaving of the two truths and skill means. > > View of Others: delusional, bewildered, confused, trapped, ignorant. > > Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to dissipate or otherwise > eliminate concepts, identities, selves, minds and so on in conceptual > appearances; constant focus on assisting conceptual entities to enter > emptiness using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > > Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, jungles, etc. > > Mutant behavior: Unwilling to experience and/or admit subjectness and I AM. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Advaita Vedantists (oneinesis incorrigibleisis) > > Identifiable Coverings: a loin cloth and/or breast covering made from > fabric of indubitable experience of an indescribable subject - I AM (ATMAN) > > View of Others: unrealized I AM's. > > Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to encourage self-inquiry and > realization of I AM; constant focus on assisting others to realization > of I AM or I AM THAT using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > > Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, jungles, etc. > > Mutant behavior: Unwilling not to say I AM and to experience and/or > admit emptiness and no I AM. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Prasangikas (zeroisnis persistisis) Identifiable Coverings: A robe and cloak made of the fabric emptiness, dependent origination, and tetralemma, and a mantle made of the interweaving of the two truths and skill means. View of Others: delusional, bewildered, confused, trapped, ignorant. Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to dissipate or otherwise eliminate concepts, identities, selves, minds and so on in conceptual appearances; constant focus on assisting conceptual entities to enter emptiness using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, jungles, etc. Mutant behavior: Unwilling to experience and/or admit subjectness and I AM. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Advaita Vedantists (oneinesis incorrigibleisis) Identifiable Coverings: a loin cloth and/or breast covering made from fabric of indubitable experience of an indescribable subject - I AM (ATMAN) View of Others: unrealized I AM's. Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to encourage self-inquiry and realization of I AM; constant focus on assisting others to realization of I AM or I AM THAT using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, jungles, etc. Mutant behavior: Unwilling not to say I AM and to experience and/or admit emptiness and no I AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > Prasangikas (zeroisnis persistisis) > > Identifiable Coverings: A robe and cloak made of the fabric emptiness, > dependent origination, and tetralemma, and a mantle made of the > interweaving of the two truths and skill means. > > View of Others: delusional, bewildered, confused, trapped, ignorant. > > Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to dissipate or otherwise > eliminate concepts, identities, selves, minds and so on in conceptual > appearances; constant focus on assisting conceptual entities to enter > emptiness using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > > Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, jungles, etc. > > Mutant behavior: Unwilling to experience and/or admit subjectness and I AM. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Advaita Vedantists (oneinesis incorrigibleisis) > > Identifiable Coverings: a loin cloth and/or breast covering made from > fabric of indubitable experience of an indescribable subject - I AM (ATMAN) > > View of Others: unrealized I AM's. > > Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to encourage self-inquiry and > realization of I AM; constant focus on assisting others to realization > of I AM or I AM THAT using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > > Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, jungles, etc. > > Mutant behavior: Unwilling not to say I AM and to experience and/or > admit emptiness and no I AM. People unplugged from the Matrix (da One). Identifiable Coverings: Non-residual self-image View of Others: If you are not one of us, you are one of them Common Behaviors: I'm an ass, you're an ass, so where's the problem? Habitat: The real world and the Matrix. Mutant behavior: I'm the One Fool, and so are you, now shall we play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 anders_lindman wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > >> >>Prasangikas (zeroisnis persistisis) >> >>Identifiable Coverings: A robe and cloak made of the fabric emptiness, >>dependent origination, and tetralemma, and a mantle made of the >>interweaving of the two truths and skill means. >> >>View of Others: delusional, bewildered, confused, trapped, ignorant. >> >>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to dissipate or otherwise >>eliminate concepts, identities, selves, minds and so on in conceptual >>appearances; constant focus on assisting conceptual entities to enter >>emptiness using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. >> >>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, > > jungles, etc. > >>Mutant behavior: Unwilling to experience and/or admit subjectness > > and I AM. > >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>Advaita Vedantists (oneinesis incorrigibleisis) >> >>Identifiable Coverings: a loin cloth and/or breast covering made from >>fabric of indubitable experience of an indescribable subject - I AM > > (ATMAN) > >>View of Others: unrealized I AM's. >> >>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to encourage self-inquiry and >>realization of I AM; constant focus on assisting others to realization >>of I AM or I AM THAT using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. >> >>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, > > jungles, etc. > >>Mutant behavior: Unwilling not to say I AM and to experience and/or >>admit emptiness and no I AM. > > > > People unplugged from the Matrix (da One). > > Identifiable Coverings: Non-residual self-image > > View of Others: If you are not one of us, you are one of them > > Common Behaviors: I'm an ass, you're an ass, so where's the problem? > > Habitat: The real world and the Matrix. > > Mutant behavior: I'm the One Fool, and so are you, now shall we play? OneUpperPerson (topsiestisis alwaysisis) Identifiable Coverings: Body suit and cape made from relativity teflon material and impenetrable protective armoring made of you-can't-get-next-to-me-and-touch-me plating View of Others: blind, stupid, evil, wicked, forsaken, wrong, idiotic, foolish, assinine, jerkish, lowish, depraved, dumb, not aware, sub par, etc. Common Behaviors: ignores others, answers questions with questions, dodges questions, makes bad jokes, talks to self, projects wildly, defensive contorted speech, paranoid imagination, says things gruffly and aggressively, always right, accuses and bites when cornered, stands on corners and pees in the open, etc. Habitat: anywhere where it can pee freely. Mutant behavior: occasionally kind, loving, and open in manner [if personal benefit is available]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > anders_lindman wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > >> > >>Prasangikas (zeroisnis persistisis) > >> > >>Identifiable Coverings: A robe and cloak made of the fabric emptiness, > >>dependent origination, and tetralemma, and a mantle made of the > >>interweaving of the two truths and skill means. > >> > >>View of Others: delusional, bewildered, confused, trapped, ignorant. > >> > >>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to dissipate or otherwise > >>eliminate concepts, identities, selves, minds and so on in conceptual > >>appearances; constant focus on assisting conceptual entities to enter > >>emptiness using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > >> > >>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, > > > > jungles, etc. > > > >>Mutant behavior: Unwilling to experience and/or admit subjectness > > > > and I AM. > > > >> > >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > >>Advaita Vedantists (oneinesis incorrigibleisis) > >> > >>Identifiable Coverings: a loin cloth and/or breast covering made from > >>fabric of indubitable experience of an indescribable subject - I AM > > > > (ATMAN) > > > >>View of Others: unrealized I AM's. > >> > >>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to encourage self-inquiry and > >>realization of I AM; constant focus on assisting others to realization > >>of I AM or I AM THAT using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > >> > >>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, > > > > jungles, etc. > > > >>Mutant behavior: Unwilling not to say I AM and to experience and/or > >>admit emptiness and no I AM. > > > > > > > > People unplugged from the Matrix (da One). > > > > Identifiable Coverings: Non-residual self-image > > > > View of Others: If you are not one of us, you are one of them > > > > Common Behaviors: I'm an ass, you're an ass, so where's the problem? > > > > Habitat: The real world and the Matrix. > > > > Mutant behavior: I'm the One Fool, and so are you, now shall we play? > > > OneUpperPerson (topsiestisis alwaysisis) > > Identifiable Coverings: Body suit and cape made from relativity teflon > material and impenetrable protective armoring made of > you-can't-get-next-to-me-and-touch-me plating > > View of Others: blind, stupid, evil, wicked, forsaken, wrong, idiotic, > foolish, assinine, jerkish, lowish, depraved, dumb, not aware, sub par, etc. > > Common Behaviors: ignores others, answers questions with questions, > dodges questions, makes bad jokes, talks to self, projects wildly, > defensive contorted speech, paranoid imagination, says things gruffly > and aggressively, always right, accuses and bites when cornered, stands > on corners and pees in the open, etc. > > Habitat: anywhere where it can pee freely. > > Mutant behavior: occasionally kind, loving, and open in manner [if > personal benefit is available]. Ahhh! That's me spot on! I am such a lovable person and so are you. I'm an ass, and you're an ass. The world is so loveable once we take our own pain and suffering as being our own personal pain and suffering. " ......problems are bundleful, but they are only now........there is not that much that can come into the now........and when it comes.....it is dealt with......in the now.... " -- Eckhart Tolle That's the true " half-sage " speaking. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 anders_lindman wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > >> >>anders_lindman wrote: >> >>>Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Prasangikas (zeroisnis persistisis) >>>> >>>>Identifiable Coverings: A robe and cloak made of the fabric >>> > emptiness, > >>>>dependent origination, and tetralemma, and a mantle made of the >>>>interweaving of the two truths and skill means. >>>> >>>>View of Others: delusional, bewildered, confused, trapped, ignorant. >>>> >>>>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to dissipate or otherwise >>>>eliminate concepts, identities, selves, minds and so on in conceptual >>>>appearances; constant focus on assisting conceptual entities to enter >>>>emptiness using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. >>>> >>>>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, >>> >>>jungles, etc. >>> >>> >>>>Mutant behavior: Unwilling to experience and/or admit subjectness >>> >>>and I AM. >>> >>> >>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>>Advaita Vedantists (oneinesis incorrigibleisis) >>>> >>>>Identifiable Coverings: a loin cloth and/or breast covering made from >>>>fabric of indubitable experience of an indescribable subject - I AM >>> >>>(ATMAN) >>> >>> >>>>View of Others: unrealized I AM's. >>>> >>>>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to encourage self-inquiry and >>>>realization of I AM; constant focus on assisting others to >>> > realization > >>>>of I AM or I AM THAT using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. >>>> >>>>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, >>> >>>jungles, etc. >>> >>> >>>>Mutant behavior: Unwilling not to say I AM and to experience and/or >>>>admit emptiness and no I AM. >>> >>> >>> >>>People unplugged from the Matrix (da One). >>> >>>Identifiable Coverings: Non-residual self-image >>> >>>View of Others: If you are not one of us, you are one of them >>> >>>Common Behaviors: I'm an ass, you're an ass, so where's the problem? >>> >>>Habitat: The real world and the Matrix. >>> >>>Mutant behavior: I'm the One Fool, and so are you, now shall we play? >> >> >>OneUpperPerson (topsiestisis alwaysisis) >> >>Identifiable Coverings: Body suit and cape made from relativity teflon >>material and impenetrable protective armoring made of >>you-can't-get-next-to-me-and-touch-me plating >> >>View of Others: blind, stupid, evil, wicked, forsaken, wrong, idiotic, >>foolish, assinine, jerkish, lowish, depraved, dumb, not aware, sub > > par, etc. > >>Common Behaviors: ignores others, answers questions with questions, >>dodges questions, makes bad jokes, talks to self, projects wildly, >>defensive contorted speech, paranoid imagination, says things gruffly >>and aggressively, always right, accuses and bites when cornered, stands >>on corners and pees in the open, etc. >> >>Habitat: anywhere where it can pee freely. >> >>Mutant behavior: occasionally kind, loving, and open in manner [if >>personal benefit is available]. > > > Ahhh! That's me spot on! I am such a lovable person and so are you. > I'm an ass, and you're an ass. The world is so loveable once we take > our own pain and suffering as being our own personal pain and suffering. > > " ......problems are bundleful, but they are only now........there is > not that much that can come into the now........and when it > comes.....it is dealt with......in the now.... " -- Eckhart Tolle > > That's the true " half-sage " speaking. > > /AL Is it really spot on Anders? That is surprising! Your playful response, (that is how it appeared to me), inspired a rendition of another generalization to add to the other three. You surprise me again. :-) Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > anders_lindman wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > >> > >>anders_lindman wrote: > >> > >>>Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Prasangikas (zeroisnis persistisis) > >>>> > >>>>Identifiable Coverings: A robe and cloak made of the fabric > >>> > > emptiness, > > > >>>>dependent origination, and tetralemma, and a mantle made of the > >>>>interweaving of the two truths and skill means. > >>>> > >>>>View of Others: delusional, bewildered, confused, trapped, ignorant. > >>>> > >>>>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to dissipate or otherwise > >>>>eliminate concepts, identities, selves, minds and so on in conceptual > >>>>appearances; constant focus on assisting conceptual entities to enter > >>>>emptiness using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > >>>> > >>>>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, > >>> > >>>jungles, etc. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Mutant behavior: Unwilling to experience and/or admit subjectness > >>> > >>>and I AM. > >>> > >>> > >>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> > >>>>Advaita Vedantists (oneinesis incorrigibleisis) > >>>> > >>>>Identifiable Coverings: a loin cloth and/or breast covering made from > >>>>fabric of indubitable experience of an indescribable subject - I AM > >>> > >>>(ATMAN) > >>> > >>> > >>>>View of Others: unrealized I AM's. > >>>> > >>>>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to encourage self-inquiry and > >>>>realization of I AM; constant focus on assisting others to > >>> > > realization > > > >>>>of I AM or I AM THAT using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > >>>> > >>>>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, > >>> > >>>jungles, etc. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Mutant behavior: Unwilling not to say I AM and to experience and/or > >>>>admit emptiness and no I AM. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>People unplugged from the Matrix (da One). > >>> > >>>Identifiable Coverings: Non-residual self-image > >>> > >>>View of Others: If you are not one of us, you are one of them > >>> > >>>Common Behaviors: I'm an ass, you're an ass, so where's the problem? > >>> > >>>Habitat: The real world and the Matrix. > >>> > >>>Mutant behavior: I'm the One Fool, and so are you, now shall we play? > >> > >> > >>OneUpperPerson (topsiestisis alwaysisis) > >> > >>Identifiable Coverings: Body suit and cape made from relativity teflon > >>material and impenetrable protective armoring made of > >>you-can't-get-next-to-me-and-touch-me plating > >> > >>View of Others: blind, stupid, evil, wicked, forsaken, wrong, idiotic, > >>foolish, assinine, jerkish, lowish, depraved, dumb, not aware, sub > > > > par, etc. > > > >>Common Behaviors: ignores others, answers questions with questions, > >>dodges questions, makes bad jokes, talks to self, projects wildly, > >>defensive contorted speech, paranoid imagination, says things gruffly > >>and aggressively, always right, accuses and bites when cornered, stands > >>on corners and pees in the open, etc. > >> > >>Habitat: anywhere where it can pee freely. > >> > >>Mutant behavior: occasionally kind, loving, and open in manner [if > >>personal benefit is available]. > > > > > > Ahhh! That's me spot on! I am such a lovable person and so are you. > > I'm an ass, and you're an ass. The world is so loveable once we take > > our own pain and suffering as being our own personal pain and suffering. > > > > " ......problems are bundleful, but they are only now........there is > > not that much that can come into the now........and when it > > comes.....it is dealt with......in the now.... " -- Eckhart Tolle > > > > That's the true " half-sage " speaking. > > > > /AL > > > Is it really spot on Anders? That is surprising! Your playful response, > (that is how it appeared to me), inspired a rendition of another > generalization to add to the other three. You surprise me again. :-) > > Lewis And I have been and can be all or part of each generalization as required being what I am. :-D Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > > > > anders_lindman wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >>anders_lindman wrote: > > >> > > >>>Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Prasangikas (zeroisnis persistisis) > > >>>> > > >>>>Identifiable Coverings: A robe and cloak made of the fabric > > >>> > > > emptiness, > > > > > >>>>dependent origination, and tetralemma, and a mantle made of the > > >>>>interweaving of the two truths and skill means. > > >>>> > > >>>>View of Others: delusional, bewildered, confused, trapped, ignorant. > > >>>> > > >>>>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to dissipate or otherwise > > >>>>eliminate concepts, identities, selves, minds and so on in > conceptual > > >>>>appearances; constant focus on assisting conceptual entities to > enter > > >>>>emptiness using words and concepts in a persuasive manner. > > >>>> > > >>>>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, > > >>> > > >>>jungles, etc. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Mutant behavior: Unwilling to experience and/or admit subjectness > > >>> > > >>>and I AM. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >>>> > > >>>>Advaita Vedantists (oneinesis incorrigibleisis) > > >>>> > > >>>>Identifiable Coverings: a loin cloth and/or breast covering made > from > > >>>>fabric of indubitable experience of an indescribable subject - I AM > > >>> > > >>>(ATMAN) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>View of Others: unrealized I AM's. > > >>>> > > >>>>Common Behaviors: makes constant effort to encourage > self-inquiry and > > >>>>realization of I AM; constant focus on assisting others to > > >>> > > > realization > > > > > >>>>of I AM or I AM THAT using words and concepts in a persuasive > manner. > > >>>> > > >>>>Habitat: swamps, briar patches, brambles, tar pits, quicksand, > > >>> > > >>>jungles, etc. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Mutant behavior: Unwilling not to say I AM and to experience and/or > > >>>>admit emptiness and no I AM. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>People unplugged from the Matrix (da One). > > >>> > > >>>Identifiable Coverings: Non-residual self-image > > >>> > > >>>View of Others: If you are not one of us, you are one of them > > >>> > > >>>Common Behaviors: I'm an ass, you're an ass, so where's the problem? > > >>> > > >>>Habitat: The real world and the Matrix. > > >>> > > >>>Mutant behavior: I'm the One Fool, and so are you, now shall we play? > > >> > > >> > > >>OneUpperPerson (topsiestisis alwaysisis) > > >> > > >>Identifiable Coverings: Body suit and cape made from relativity > teflon > > >>material and impenetrable protective armoring made of > > >>you-can't-get-next-to-me-and-touch-me plating > > >> > > >>View of Others: blind, stupid, evil, wicked, forsaken, wrong, > idiotic, > > >>foolish, assinine, jerkish, lowish, depraved, dumb, not aware, sub > > > > > > par, etc. > > > > > >>Common Behaviors: ignores others, answers questions with questions, > > >>dodges questions, makes bad jokes, talks to self, projects wildly, > > >>defensive contorted speech, paranoid imagination, says things gruffly > > >>and aggressively, always right, accuses and bites when cornered, > stands > > >>on corners and pees in the open, etc. > > >> > > >>Habitat: anywhere where it can pee freely. > > >> > > >>Mutant behavior: occasionally kind, loving, and open in manner [if > > >>personal benefit is available]. > > > > > > > > > Ahhh! That's me spot on! I am such a lovable person and so are you. > > > I'm an ass, and you're an ass. The world is so loveable once we take > > > our own pain and suffering as being our own personal pain and > suffering. > > > > > > " ......problems are bundleful, but they are only now........there is > > > not that much that can come into the now........and when it > > > comes.....it is dealt with......in the now.... " -- Eckhart Tolle > > > > > > That's the true " half-sage " speaking. > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > Is it really spot on Anders? That is surprising! Your playful response, > > (that is how it appeared to me), inspired a rendition of another > > generalization to add to the other three. You surprise me again. :-) > > > > Lewis > > And I have been and can be all or part of each generalization as > required being what I am. :-D > > Lewis Here is another one: The ordinary person (plugged into the Matrix). Identifiable Coverings: Residual self-image as " being someone " while actually being a ridiculous result of social conditioning. View of Others: No view of others, only a view of internal images, which again are nothing but social conditioning having their go. Common Behaviors: " I'm intelligent, you are not, so you are the problem. " Habitat: The Matrix. Mutant behavior: None. Hehe. :-] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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